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Off Topic Council plans to fill in remains of historic Beverley Gate in Hull opposed

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Aug 11, 2015.

  1. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    I'm rewriting nothing. I notice you seem keen to ignore the suggestion you also look the wastage and cock ups in the East Riding. Preferring to try to imply it's only Hull CC that have room for improvement.

    You keep making these quite dramatic claims about the Council, but offer nothing of substance to support your bitter opinon.

    I guess you mean the council should facilitate businessmen looking to invest in the region and work with them in promotion their schemes? Like a complex on Walton St?

    With that mindset, and the obvious blinkered bitterness toward Hull Council, I'm starting to wonder if you are in fact Allam, as your views, attitude and debating style are very similar.
     
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  2. AlRawdah

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    A63 - the current route was determined by the funding available, which is down to national government and the way transport scenes are funded. Lots of options for Castle Street were considered but the combination and money conspired against them - go south of the marina and you rack up costs and sever the land from sea, go north and you extend journey times and demolish houses, go down and you rack up astronomical cost.

    Developing docks east of the city. To be served by railways, then trying to serve them by road instead - that's the heart of the roads problem in central Hull.
     
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  3. balkan tiger

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    I often wonder how many miss the boats (NSF) out of Hull. The traffic backs up for miles mixing up rush hour traffic and boat passengers.
     
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  4. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    They didn't need to go north or south, they simply needed to raise the road over the entrance to Princes Dock and put in a better junction into the city centre (something they're now planning on spending a small fortune rectifying).
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Leeds has a single shopping centre that generates more rates than every retail unit in Hull City Centre combined. The reason they can charge three times the rent and rates, is because they attract more than three times the amount of shoppers, because it's not ****.
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    Withernsea is a seaside resort developed for the residents of East Hull, we keep it run down to make them feel at home. <laugh>
     
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  7. The Omega Man

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    As Hull develops it needs to look at radical transport changes. Southampton has failed to develop solutions and it has an almost weekly gridlock. Cruise ships disembarking, combined with the Bournemouth Airshow, container truck movements and someone deciding that it was a good time to close one lane on a bypass. Made a simple trip into Southampton and back a nightmare, instead of the expected 30 minutes there and back it took 15 minutes to get in and 2 hours to get back.
    Any development in or to the east of the city centre will add to the problems already faced in Hull. I think that there either needs to be a move towards the west or an elevated through road.
     
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  8. AlRawdah

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    The burial ground at Mytongate(?) prevents that. Plus what you are asking for is another £100m+ that wasn't available at the time - and judging by the current rate of progress, continues to not be available. A devolution deal might help resolve this.
     
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  9. DMD

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    Another HDM comments solution, that misses a fair bit of the practical realities and still doesn't acknowledge whose decision it actually was.
     
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  10. DMD

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    It seems to be failing even on that. Nobody from Hull bothers with it, as the deprivation is below most of Hull. Sadly, it's not alone in the east riding for being a ghost town. It amazes me the ratepayers tolerate such incompetence from their local council, especially as it drags the region down.

    It all needs bringing under the wing of a Greater Hull region,. It's obvious tory farmers can get themselves grants, but it leaves the bumpkin living an almost subsistence lifestyle. Let's get some positive thinking City folk in there and drag these fogotten rural ghettos into this century. They deserve it after ERYC has neglected them for so long.
     
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  11. originallambrettaman

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    The rate payers have no idea what it's like, they've probably never been, same with Goole, only the people that live there actually go there and it's hardly representative of the vast majority East Yorkshire.

    The rest of the rant was funny though. Ta.
     
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  12. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    I know you're only joking, kidda. When I was a kid you could get a train from Paragon to both With and Hornsea.
     
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  13. DMD

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    Rant? Hardly. I just thought I'd offer you the opportunity to drift the conversation away from where your ignorance and lack of knowledge on the road scheme was shining out. <ok>

    So, because in your view they're deprived areas at the back of beyond, it's okay for the ER council just to leave them to it, but if Hull Council don't make things attractive to out of town investors they're crap.

    Nope, no double standards or hypocrisy there. Nope, none at all.
     
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  14. originallambrettaman

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    There was a bloke campaiging to get both lines reinstated not long back, but it will never happen, there's nowhere near the demand nowadays.
     
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  15. originallambrettaman

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    <laugh> What a moronic post.

    It's utterly pointless trying to discuss anything with you.
     
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  16. DMD

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    Warning, low flying teddies near OLM's pram. <laugh>

    Given your earlier replies showed it was crystal clear this was another subject where you didn't have a clue about the reality of how these things work, I think I was polite and patient with your wriggling.

    If you come back to the subject when you know a bit more,about it, it'll be a a tad less pointless. As it is, you're bringing nothing meaningful to the chat.

    Stick to reposting pictures, they're okay, but it falls down when you just whinge about Hull CC.
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    <laugh> it's funny that you're a right gobshite on here and a ****ing mouse in person.
     
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  18. DMD

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    A mouse? Funny that, I made a point of going over to you the last time we were in the same room and you seemed less than keen to carry on the chat.

    You've a habit of getting lippy and abusive when you lack of knowledge on a subject is brought up.

    You seem to share a few traits with the Allams.
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    Whatever.
     
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  20. I’m an Alligator...

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    What sort of chicken ****, East Riding, tweeds and brogues answer is that, like?
     
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