If there was any remaining doubt on why you should vote for Corbyn, then this should convince you! http://www.parliament.uk/edm/2015-16/56
Don't lie, I know your pleased that Corbyn is celebrating footballing success coming to North London!
He's from Wiltshire. (Probably the first time that word's been used correctly on this board.) The ****er should support Swindon or something. Does explain his delusional, unrealistic stances on a number of issues, though!
That depends where you live as you know!! The figurative sum of lets say 150,000k could buy you a good house in some parts of the North. In London it won't get you the proverbial garden shed. Even housing in a place like Reading is considerably cheaper.
I am reading Ian Marchant's humourous book "Something of the Night" and this was his stance on the parties. To paraphrase his writing he said at the time of writing (2012) that Labour had neutered itself, the Lib Dems had become what they were prior to 1997 (a fringe party) whilst the Tories were the "Ruling Party" who ruled for the benefit of the "Ruling Party," so if that what appealed to you then great. He went off to join the Greens for very practical reasons. IMO the left of British politics needs to reinvent itself again in order to become credible again. Quite how the next leader of the Labour party is going to do this remains to be seen. (My own wish is that Labour should stick with Harriet until Obama becomes available ....)
The modern incarnation of the Labour party represents very little of what their founding principles were and imo they (and politics in general) needs Corbyn to remind people that there is an alternative to the insipid market led decision making that politics currently is. Far from being a 'loony' voice, I think Corbyn in opposition will hold a torch to the murkier depths of capitalist policy making, which influences everything, from the NHS, Business, Envirnoment, Welfare, Foreign Policy etc, it's all driven by 'market forces'. The Tories have always been about protecting the interests of the ruling class, they will never represent the majority of working people in Britain. I don't understand why people buy into their blatant lies again and again and their scaremongering about what Labour might or might not do.
Not true Piskie. The Tories are about individual responsibility. Labour are about pandering to the feckless & lazy at the cost of those willing to put a hard days shift in. We are all in favour of helping the genuinely needy, but I say feck those who choose to smoke 20 a day rather than buy a loaf of bread. Feck those who think they have the right to take more from someone just because they are guilty of working hard and making a success of themselves. Feck 95% of the lazy scroungers that call themselves socialists. The nanny state has had its day & it's time everyone started to gain some self respect and start making an effort to support themselves.
Our forum is fairly inactive compared with the others so I think closing down threads because they are off topic is probably not the way forwards oh powerful mods. Whilst I get that this thread is here to Hoover up the off topic stuff it is mainly used as a place to discuss politics. This forum comes with an option to add an off-topic label to a thread when it is posted and I'd assume just whacking that on there so people know it's not football related would be good enough? (Like I've seen on other teams boards) Posting this as Ides of March made a thread about Mo the gooner which I thought was a perfectly good contribution and he got (as far as I'm concerned) quite a rude, or at the least abrupt response and then the thread closed. Seems a bit counter productive to me!
Thanks AFCFTW. IMO athletics is an awesome sport and Mo a fabulous runner that we should cherish because I cannot see anyone emerging from UK ranks for quite a while. Would love our sprinters to get a medal or two but to do that they need to improve by at least a tenth of a second which is a big ask.
Mo is a fantastic runner and a good role model. Proud to call him British (It's just the icing on the cake that he's an Arsenal fan!)
<cough>drugscheat<cough> This party political broadcast was brought to you by the Daily Mail and Rupert Murdoch. Thank you for listening. If the Tories were about individual responsibility then they'd make people pay the tax that they're supposed to. New Labour are no ****ing better, but where was all of this personal responsibility when the banks screwed the pooch? The institutions were saved and nobody was held responsible for it, even those that bet on it happening and made moves to help it along. That's ok, apparently. It's different, for some reason.
Don't even bother arguing with him - I know your right, the majority of the country seems to be thinking the same way you do...
That's the problem, though. The majority of the country doesn't think this way or the Tories wouldn't have got back in. Even though they only got something like 25% of the available votes, that was still miles ahead of everyone else. People don't know what they're voting for, they don't like any of the available options much either and the same arseholes keep getting into power. They might stick a different colour in the background when they're making speeches, but there's a *** paper between the lot of them. That's why they're all scared of the slightly loopy bloke with the beard.
I don't think they had a huge majority, and certainly if labour bothered opposing any of their policies and combined with the snp then they'd be out voted. But I think the problem is that if your right wing traditionally you only had one choice - Tory, but now you have ukip and bnp (very extreme though) as well. Whereas the Blarities have disillusioned the party membership to such a level that it's fragmented the left, with the lib dems moving left, the greens, the snp, tusc, Plaid, socialists ect. It just means that the vote is so diluted that the Tories can cause havoc with only 25% of the population voting for them, and the rest of us a target. The depressing thing is it'll only get worse once they change the constituency boundaries to make it harder for anyone else to win, and give increasing freedoms and tax breaks to the media big wigs, which will enable them to further erode our human rights and right to protest...
Majority of the country? Where the feck do you get your deluded comments from? The country recently voted against your lot of scroungers. Always got your hands out thinking the world owes you a free ride. Learn to live with defeat, because if all goes well, Corbyn will become labour leader and you'll be confined to the back of the class for many, many years to come, thank god.
