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Off Topic Anti fascists foil NA 'white man march' in Liverpool

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by johnsonsbaby, Aug 17, 2015.

  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I agree the DUP are right bigoted ****s but they were not wrong in insisting that when it came time the guns and bombs and criminality had to go.

    I don't excuse their crap earlier... they had establishment on their side too which allowed them to carry on exactly as you have said.

    they were still right in not talking til the guns were gone and that the rule of law and order had to be respected and not only that but supported. the fact that sin fien eventually agreed at each step means they wee right. I sincerely doubt the DUP really want the PSNI to have equality of religion etc in there but thats what they demnded so the population at large benefit.

    In the end thats a ****ed up place but there you go.
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I tried but keep getting the same message, probably to do with our broadband supplier Virgin not allowing it. And there's another link to freedom of speech - censorship.
     
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    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    It's not offensive to me......
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    internet providers have an opt out or in option on their websites when it comes to adult material, I had to opt out of Sky Broadband's censoring of it, they wouldn't let me look at anything they classed as adult, it was doing me head in.<laugh>
     
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    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    I don't recall putting any settings on our broadband and it very rarely kicks in with blocking a site but it's determined I'm not seeing this one <laugh>
     
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  6. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    fair point i should have wrote muslims after ALL.
     
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  7. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Nor me. If Western Europe had become Islamified in the last millennium we would doubtless now be picturing him with long blond hair and blue eyes alongside those rather unconvincing pictures of JC we see in churches. Probably be played by Brad Pitt or Owen Wilson in some "The Prophet Rides Again" Hollywood franchise.
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    actually we'd not be allowed to... obviously :bandit:

    actually the thought of owen wilson playing jesus could just be a moment of inspiration there... that might be funny... if he doesn't sink into the whining.

    brad pitt would play it like insufferable bastards or that tank one and spit down off the cross on the soldiers.

    ....
     
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  9. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    The West would have changed those rules had they interfered with trade and profit. Keep up.
     
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  10. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    dear oh dear

    my dear fellow.. the "west" did exist when the moors ruled half of spain nor the turks across southern europe and Byzantine italy.

    The REALITY is if eruope had become muslim then it would be far far different than today.... and you'd NOT be breaking a sacred tenant of islamic law.

    You are just putting the icon worship of one faith onto another when you are saying the faith with no icons is taking over.

    I hope this was as ****ish as possible.... i have a rep to give up to.
     
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  11. Jeremy Hillary Boob

    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Thanks for the history lesson. My point is, all religion, Christian and Islam especially, was subject to constant re-writes by those in power for centuries after their prophets' deaths, primarily motivated by the control of the peasants. The powers of the 15thC onwards, Spain, England, France, etc, would simply have either taken control of the religion (Rome) or altered it (the reformation) to suit their means.
     
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    Jeremy Hillary Boob GC Thread Terminator

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    Btw, if picturing Mohammed is forbidden, how would anyone know if his face doesn't keep appearing on slices of toast like JC's allegedly does (even though we actually have no real idea what JC did actually did look like)?
     
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  13. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    that is a good question.

    I presume they miss those signals.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    of course.. i was going for complete **** there to please greez expectations.

    However i would wonder who would have been in control of said religions and where the world power centres would hve been in that context.. but islam is split up enough to suggest another centre with another form could have formed.
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Bonkers conversation.
     
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    Treble Keyser Söze

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    You are confusing talking and free speech with appeasement. You dont have to believe or agree with what someone is spouting mate. You have to confront it, whether it's through dialogue or through battle. But I'd rather give them the right to spout their bollox before deciding they all want death and destruction and banning them.

    I'd rather the neo-nazis were trying to recruit in the open than being forced underground where they'll recruit unchecked. At least when you give them a platform to spout their rubbish and then confront them, you'll have a much greater chance of showing those susceptible the bollox they're saying.
     
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  17. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It's all propaganda of one type or the other.

    Let them talk, debate etc etc and they get their little sheen of respectability while the target the younger and more marginal and foolish... suck them in on the margins and fringes.
     
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    terrifictraore Well-Known Member

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    Do you really think if their little March went ahead they would have ended up with a sheen of respectability?
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    add in going on tv and such etc... yeah if they play the cards right.

    the actions of the anit group have shown up their evil side and highlighted the voilence in their cause instead

    you see its all a process.. start out small.. normalise this type of marching etc, get yourself on social media ge tthe message out.. sell whatever story it is.
     
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  20. Diego

    Diego Lone Ranger

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    There's a shroud for that :bandit:
     
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