I see the confusion, I think. I'll try to explain. The sensitive situation is 3 fold: 1) JL's unbelievably sad family event. 2) JL's alleged response and it's impact on the team's situation 3) SB's alleged insensitivity to JL in his press interview ( +print) and the possibility that SB didn't have all the facts about 1) when he gave it. I'll add the 4th.. 4) Insensitivity to SB because we don't know what he knew at the time he was interviewed after JL's indiscretion came to light. My position is we should think the best of these guys given the circumstances. My call to you to halt the discussion was that I thought it was inappropriate to judge JL and/or SB on this forum.
I think you're spot on OLM. In fact people under-estimate how much cocaine is used in society as a whole today, it's massive. I've dj'd for 21 years and in the club I work it's a constant battle for the doormen to kick it out. Partly because ecstasy is so volatile these days, many of the young ones are taking coke, and they're not shy about doing it, it's almost as if it's acceptable within the younger generations.
I think most people are judging one or both of them on here, and have done so for months, and will continue to do so, which is where my confusion about you calling me out came from.
Sorry about that...there's three of us, CANADATIGER, tigerincanada and your truly. Bloody confusing...as you can see with my response.
Not sure if this has been posted...gives a little more insight into the delay http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
City have just said they will not be commenting further until after the FA hearing. Now this is out in the public domain, I think the FA will be under a lot of pressure to go easy on him and I'll now be surprised if he gets the recommended mandatory ban.
Let's be brutaly honest here. Would you want to be supporting JL if he was a lorry driver who had lost a child, taken drugs and then run over one of your family. The answer would be a resounding NO. I would imagine he has a full team of medical staff at Hull City that they can call on day or night. Joe Public does not readily have this kind of help. He let himself down, his family down and his football team down.
I was using an example of a real life worker as opposed to the mega rich not overly talented modern day footballer.
But JL hasn't killed anyone, so your comparison becomes invalid as you have purposely painted the driver out to be worse.
I knew people were talking about "personal issues" but it's only recently that I knew about the death of his child. I would assume that if he got a suspension for the offence it would be back dated to his original suspension.
Jesus! He lost a child, took cocaine and then played a couple of duff football games. He hasn't killed anybody, mugged an old widow, set fire to a building full of people. Get a grip!
I am using it as an example of how most are reacting to a footballer using the drugs and an everyday worker appears to be different.
But you aren't, as you've also suggesting the driver did something else as well which would obviously garner some hate.
I have a grip. I was close to losing both of my children when they were 5 and 7. Thank you HRI and Great Ormond Street. At no point did I think I will go out and get some drugs. I reduced my hours at work to help with the stress.
I obviously am not putting it across as I should. I know what I mean but obviously I am **** at putting it across. Ignore my comments and I wont comment anymore.
Ultimately grief hits everyone differently, Jake took a route which seemed right to him which was obviously a massive mistake. some people draw into there family, some seek religion, some throw themselves into work, others seek other means of distraction. Critisim to bruce is also unwarranted, we dont know anything about conversations he or others had with jake about his loss. Jake may well of asked to continue to play as a way to establksh some normalit during a traumatic time (this may have had other impacts on his partner). I am sure the club have put a range of measures in place for him, and the not contacting may be to allow he and his partner chance to grieve and adress their needs. until you have witnessed the impact of a loss of a child it is impossible to understand and make an informed arguement about a persons actions. I have witnessed a lot of death, but dead children still hit me hard, I can only imagine what he and his partner werengoing through, whilst this doesnt justify drug use it may explain it
