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Best female flat jockey

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by L_M, Aug 9, 2015.

  1. woolcombe-folly007

    woolcombe-folly007 Well-Known Member

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    i don't know about riding talent (well horses anyway <laugh>) but the natural talent in looks Sammy Jo wins hands down
     
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    Sorry to tone it down especially to PNkt!!
     
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  3. PNkt

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    I ought to clarify, I've no objection to people having a laugh and a joke about these sorts of discussions. But the serious side should also be given some consideration on some level at least.
     
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    In terms of natural horsemanship Sammy Jo is clearly one of the brightest stars and most natural talented we've had for a long time male and female! Watching some of her winners she has kind of mcCoyesk those horses in to winning and And I hope she goes a long way!! Then Katie Walsh I am big fan of her and mr Mullins must feel the same as she gets some very good rides, but racing an horses run through the Walsh blood as we all know. But yes men and women are more equal in a sport like racing but I would also disagree in a drive finish 1furlong out the women strength is tested more it is only science men are stronger than women but it isn't everything and natural talent does have a big factor
     
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  5. SwanHills

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    This is all very very biased towards lady jockeys on this side of the pond. Same old story, you'd think horseracing starts and ends in Europe. If so, how come Europe doesn't win every goddamn race at the Breeders' Cup, in Australia in their Spring carnivals, in Dubai, in Hong Kong, in Singapore? Truth is, we don't.
     
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    Can't get off my arse at the moment Swanny - always spend the first 5 or 6 days on holiday feeling like **** - the body and mind "coming down" from the routine I guess. I have hired the bike though, and am fancying a few km in the morning. We shall see.
     
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    Sheilas and cobbers. <whistle>
     
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  8. SwanHills

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    Cyc, I have good friends (yes, honestly) who have retired and finally settled in Caloundra, after one false start there. He is Canadian-born, she American. I remember my mate's wife remarking in an email they sent me once, "..........but please note, don't ever, and I mean ever, call me a sheila!" <laugh>
     
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    The good woman and I often spend a pleasant day at Caloundra Swanny. We usually end up at either Golden or Moffat Beach, sometimes it's the wonderfully named Bulcock Beach. <laugh>
     
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  10. SwanHills

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    <laugh> I bet my old mate goes regularly to the last named!
     
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  11. King Shergar

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    It's irrelevant as to wether a women rider could ride a horse better than me, as I am not a rider. The same as Paula Radcliffe could beat me in a marathon, but that doesn't make women better at running marathons than men.

    In all sports it doesn't matter what sports they are men set faster times, or jump or throw longer distances. This is just a fact of life, men are genetically made to be better at sport than women. It's not a case of being sexist like you've tried to suggest I'm being, it's just being a realist, and saying it how it is. Any scientist that understands the genetics of both a man and a women would tell you the exact same.

    This is why they have separate category's for a man and women in every other sport, the same as they have separate category's for under 16 footballers or senior tour golfers, you wouldn't say that was age discrimination would you? It's just being realistic about what a person is genetically capable of doing, and a man is genetically capable of more than a women.

    Even in the horse racing world a colt has a genetic advantage over a filly, hence the weight allowance, and the separate fillies races. Would you say that is also discrimination?

    The reason women can compete with men as horse riders is simple, the horse does most of the work, so who's onboard only makes a slight difference. But in terms of skill the best male jockeys are still a lot better than the best female.

    Haley Turner v Ryan Moore or Nina Carberry v Barry Geraghty, need I say anymore? :biggrin:
     
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  12. NassauBoard

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    We do though, it's Europe and the breeding facilities that do dominate the world of racing.
     
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  13. SwanHills

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    Fair enough, but the Kentucky bluegrass country has had it's fair share of successes breeding-wise also. E.P.Taylor (Windfields Farm, Ontario, expanded later I believe to Maryland, USA) did pretty well too with his little Canadian champion Northern Dancer, what a hell of an influence this stallion had.
     
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    She certainly isn't at the ladies' top table at the moment, but can I put in an early-career plug for Josephine (Jo) Gordon ? She still claims the seven, and seems to me to be riding to a level where four pounds of that is straightforward bonus. Currently with Stan Moore (who tutored the fledgling Luke Morris not that long ago), she rides a lot of very moderate horses and appears to have the hands - and the brain - to get them to give something like their best. Watch her when she rides one for Mark Usher and there's a bit of market support.
     
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