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My thoughts on Palace game

Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by Dangerous Marsupial, Aug 8, 2015.

  1. Nathan Barley

    Nathan Barley Well-Known Member

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    I read that too , makes the decisions even more suss.
    3 huge decisions wrong.
     
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    Safely say he'll be down to league 1 for the rest of the season, what a joke of a ref
     
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    Good to see that it's not just a bunch of bitter canaries bitching about the ref tho. Reading that you really have to wonder on why he was given an opening PL match as "a trial". That's like letting a legal secretary defend you in a murder trial (joke before I get bawled out)
     
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  5. Bath-Canary

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    Halsey was a good referee and more importantly he's willing to now speak out and give his opinions on the football, I think it's important that referees are represented in the media and he does it fairly well. We are however getting to the point where they have to introduce video refereeing. Generally the viewers know if the decision was good or bad before the on pitch argument has finished do there no chance of slowing the game down.
    But instead of accepting this flaw in the process the FA and FIFA have tried to double down on the idea of the ref being perfect. The review process for poor decisions is laughable and the whole if the ref sees it it can't be review idea is utter bullshit. Referees are seeing things once in real time no one can be expected to make good decision based on that and we should help them.
    I have a theory that the increased scrutiny on referees I'd having a significant effect on the quality, they become fearful of being the talking point and seem to struggle to make sensible decision as they keep second guessing themselves. Then there's greater criticism and more doubt. It's a self perpetuating cycle.
    The other issue I have is the argument that it all balances out over the season, well it doesn't, you know who thinks that? Fans of big clubs because for them they will most likely make a net gain. The only fans I ever talk to who are against video referees support clubs who generally get the rub of the green from them, this is either because they don't see it as an issue or know they gain an advantage and want to maintain it.
    Football in terms on innovation it dropping behind pretty much every other sport going, even cricket that throw back to a 19th century Sunday afternoon is full of technology and the game is much better for it. Football is stuck opportunities are huge, the finances available and the rewards immeasurable however until Blatter is rotting in an American jail cell nothing will happen.
     
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    Apologies, that turned out to be just a ranting stream of consciousness.
     
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  7. Forgot_My_Lines

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    Never said any of them were crap. Said about the team that was picked, and lo, the result followed. I'd start to read things properly...... "FFS"...

    Forums are for opinion. I felt when the team was announced it was a poor choice, and we lose 3-1. Don't think anything I said was out of order. Just my opinion on this weeks selection....."FFS"
     
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    No need to apologise Bath! You are spot on with all of that, especially after reading the unbiased views of Mark Halsey. Football is the most archaic of all sports regarding technology and is being seriously compromised because of it. It makes me furious as well.
     
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  10. 1950canary

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    I have read your post again and as well as referring to the defending as 'crap' you made out that team selection, tactics, ability etc were all completely wrong.There is no suggestion that anything you said was out of order or that anybody is not entitled to their opinion on here but it is a bit over the top when you present your opinions as 'fact' You are not alone, as an example, to suggest that in your opinion Whittaker should not be RB and that Martin should not be CB but that is not a view shared by Lambert, Hughton, Phelan, Adams, Neil and Strachan who are in a far better position to judge. As I said AN has to pick the team based on many factors including who is fully match fit - Jerome and Redmond weren't - who is injured - Mulumbu and Ollsen would have played if fit - and who is doing well in training and mentally prepared. He is aware of these factors - you and I aren't - so it is wrong to say as a fact that he picked the wrong team. I just felt that your post was a complete over reaction to one defeat by a talented well organised team in circumstances where we might well have won if decisions had gone our way.
     
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  11. chinacanary

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    Not so - made sense to me. I was discussing the simplicity of it last night with my missus - you would need four video adjudicators and it would work like this:

    Manager has a call for disallowed goals:

    Call ( a la Jerome's goal) is buzzed to the referee through his watch by the manager and the
    adjudicators have 30 seconds to review the call. Majority only gives the call to the manager. E.g. 3 of 4 said that it was a safe play and a goal. Goal is given. 50/50 split - refs decision stands.

    Not sure how it would work for a penno call as potentially team goes up other end and scores a goal. But for Jerome's goal the above, to me (and my missus) made sense (last night after a few Spanish cervejas)
     
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  12. Forgot_My_Lines

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    Ok...You are quoting manager that play them there..Lambert got out of there first offer he got. Hughton was totally incompetent and insanly negative. Phelan is just a coach and obviously had no say, that's why he left as soon as he could. Adams was totally out of his league and should never have been first team manager. Amazing youth couch/manager, but can't make him manager a prem/championship team from nothing, and also he couldnt sign anyone, he had to use what he had. Strachan I respect, but he's managing Scotland!? What choice has he got?!

    In the comment of Fitness, I heard that. Both changed the game when they came on against Brentford. We would have lost before they entered. They looked bang on then, they looked bang on when they finally came on. I think it was worth the risk in a winable home game.Imagine the high we'd go to Sunderland with. I'm just scared about Sunderland now. If we lose to them...Unthinkable.
     
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    Whatever you do don't suggest Martin could be at fault for anything
     
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  14. 1950canary

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    If you are angry at Saturdays performance and find defeat at Sunderland ' unthinkable ' you could be in for a long stressful season my friend.
     
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  15. Nathan Barley

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    Football Is corrupt .
    The crazy amount of money is the only thing that matters to the people in charge of the game and I wouldn't be surprised if the rooky prick Hooper was paid to influence yesterdays game, at the very least he was completely bias .
     
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  16. Nathan Barley

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    You just had to remind me about that cheating bastard Henry, didn't you! <grr>

    <laugh> <ok>
     
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    <laugh> It can't be Captain Fantastics fault.
     
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  19. JM Fan

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    Having had time to reflect on Saturday's result and seeing the goals last night, I'm feeling a lot less despondent about our prospects for the forthcoming season.
    The Palace goals were all preventable and we can only hope that it's something that AN and his assistants will be trying to instill into his defenders. ☺
     
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  20. RiverEndRick

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    It was a good performance which should have ended in at least a draw. Pardew has been very honest about how they 'rode their luck' and that 'the result flattered CP'. It's the performance that matters, not the unjust result. Let's move on to a very nervous Sunderland now.
     
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