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Qurarabhagag v Ronnie and JC's mad mental thoughts

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  1. DevAdvocate

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    A new survey shows Scottish football in rude health just three years after Armageddon was predicted for the game.
    Following Rangers' administration and subsequent liquidation in the summer of 2012, warnings of a financial collapse were rife in Scotland. Governing body officials claimed clubs could survive for a 'short period of time' but without Rangers, who began again as a newco in the bottom tier of the Scottish League, 'it would not be sustainable' and the game could suffer a 'slow, lingering death'.

    However, since then St Johnstone, St Mirren, Aberdeen and Inverness Caledoinian Thistle have tasted glory in national cup competitions after the game regrouped north of the border. Now a survey by accountants and business advisers BDO LLP shows all Scottish clubs have their finances in good shape with none intending to sell any future earnings, such as advances on season tickets or media income.

    'Harsh lessons'
    The annual survey - entitled Investing for Success: Football Finances and Commercial Growth - showed that these actions are 'broadly in line with clubs across the UK which have learnt the harsh lessons of selling off future income to fund current liabilities'.
    However, it does show that profitability is 'difficult to attain' with just one club stating they would make a profit after player trading and depreciation.
     
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    Null Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    It’s hardly a revolutionary thought ... every **** has known for years that Scottish clubs needs to 1- develop their youth and 2 – sign young players, develop them and sell them at a profit. This is pretty much what the Dutch have been doing for decades.


    It’s not Scottish teams sole purpose to develop Scottish players – many clubs youth academies have youth players from various countries and, Scottish teams, have a mix of Scottish, Irish (north and south), English and welsh. The clubs should be developing any youth players to minimise transfer spend – regardless of the youth players nationality. However, it would be beneficial if they could develop more Scottish players to assist the national team
     
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    Exactly, and when you consider the huge clubs are trawling the world signing kids for the future, you have to ask why should Celtic be any different. If Spanish, Italian, Russian, French, English and German clubs can't bring through young homegrown talent how are Celtic expected to, in a country where the population is a fraction the size of the nations mentioned.

    Currently Celtic have Broon, Forrest, Mulgrew, GMS, Craig Gordon, Armstrong, Griffiths all playing for Scotland, seems to me we are doing our bit.
     
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    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    No Rangers werent. I covered that In my OP but as always you Tims see Celtic getting mentioned and the hackles go up and the red mist blinds you to anything. The only reason i was talking about Celtic in that post was because i was replying to your idiotic statements in your post.

    i did say the whole of Scottish football so Rangers would probably be covered by that eh.<doh>
     
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    <rofl>
     
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    It should be every clubs priority to develop youth. You are correct though It shouldn't matter where they're from. However that makes the situation even worse. All those countries to choose from and very few making the grade.

    I would say there is no difference between a Scots kid and a Spanish kid if both are coached the same way both will be of a similar standard.
     
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    <doh>
     
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    I should have posted that instead. In case you had not noticed, I tend to give give short shrift to Ad Hominem attacks, I have no intention of engaging in some futile debate or "Blame Game" about Celtic's duty to provide the national team with players.
     
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    Blame game, national team?

    The only person that mentioned the national team was you. Do you think when I said it was Celtic's (and everyother clubs) job to develop youth I meant for the national team?

    Nor did I blame Celtic for all the woes of Scottish football. Is that what you got out of that post I made and the previous one?

    Well then, again.

    <doh>
     
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    Well who are Celtic developing young Scottish talent for if not the National team? What does it matter what nationality they are then?

    Success will not follow naturally just because we have young Scots players.
     
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    Think you better read the sentence you highlighted again. Where in it does it mention young SCOTTISH talent?

    If Celtic were developing young Scottish talent then would that not benefit.....emm.......errr.......Celtic?

    **** me that is a fail of Mindy proportions right there Russ <laugh>
     
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    So you were not talking about young "Scottish" players, just "Young" players in general? <confused>

    What's the average age of the current Celtic squad and as I asked already, why does it matter if they are Scottish, how does that benefit Celtic exactly?
     
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    Youth I said........Y O U T H.

    Ffs.
     
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    So you can have "old" youths?
     
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    youth

    1.the condition of being young.
    2.the appearance, freshness, vigor, spirit, etc., characteristic of one who is young.
    3.the time of being young; early life:
    His youth was spent on the farm.
    4.the period of life from puberty to the attainment of full growth; adolescence.
    5.the first or early period of anything:
    The business, even in its youth, showed great potential.
    6.young persons collectively.
    7.a young person, especially a young man or male adolescent.
     
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    Dev you are now plumbing the depths trying to back up an argument you are having with yourself. Nothing you have said relates to any post I made.

    So you can't get old youths ffs. Posting the meaning of youth doesn't hide the fact you either didn't read what I said and decided to just post random ****e

    Or

    You read and failed to understand what I said.

    As the main point of my post was the extreme lack of talented youngsters coming through the ranks of our top teams then asking the average age of the Celtic team means **** all unless you are now going to tell us the old youths in the side were developed by Celtic.
     
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    You think there's a dearth of youngsters in the Scottish game, I disagree. There are plenty.

    Celtic and Rangers cannot and never will be allowed time to develop a team full of kids, the fans would not stand for it unless sucess was a guarantee.
     
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    12 Scottish players started in both the Aberdeen/Utd and Hearts/Saints games at the weekend.

    14 in the Celtic/County game.

    Aldo talking pish once again.
     
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    Aye but...
     
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    Compare that with 4 English players starting in the Community Shield.

    Scottish football has a lot of ****e points but to claim there is no focus on domestic youth is a laughable Hun fantasy. McCoist sold or released most of their best youth and obliterated their scouting system but it doesn't apply to Premiership teams one bit.
     
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