Ah I dunno. Tastes change. He can learn, he may not, but we'll keep trying! I never liked Stilton until I was about 20.
Oh, I think PL gets it. It's just that he has a limited musical database to refer and relate to, and that's entirely understandable when you see what's on offer today. The thing is, it's not a crime to listen to music from more creative eras. Anything.! Anything you haven't heard is new music to you, so it is neither old fashioned nor out of date. There is oceans of great music out there, most of which doesn't require a video accompanying it [like that Johnny Cash track above didn't] to maintain the interest because the music is strong enough on its own. And contrary to popular belief, in the absence of great music from the present era, many people are going back to previous times and listening again. I started listening to classical music in the 1980's for example. It wasn't my first choice as I was brought up on the popular music of the day. That just happened to be very creative at the time. I'm not saying people should start with classical music and work forward [that'd take time], but pick an era or one year even, and check out everything that was going on then. Plenty of people do it and they find stuff they can relate to, as the saying went.
In fairness TSS the young'uns tend to be pretty well musically educated these days because of the easy availability of everything! Unfortunately they're also bombarded as to what is 'good' by the Cowell cronies, so are under the misapprehension that a good vocalist is a vocal gymnast like Jessie J, or that a good vocal performance is ironed flat by auto tune or melodyne. It's like a street-skills footballer. It all looks impressive, but they're no premier league player. It doesn't make them good in the 'true' sense. I quite like the idea of fashion over passion as Clem said above. That sums it up well. Unfortunately for the moment PL is stuck in that loop, but as we've both said, he can learn.
They are, I agree. Otherwise there would be no branching out and looking for other genre or music. Indeed, Clem's fashion over passion summed it up well. I thought he sold PL a tad short though. PL just needs to branch out a little from the mainstream. It'll open his ears.
Goes back to what we were saying yesterday about working at something too, rather than demanding instant, candy-floss satisfaction. Like a Radiohead album for example.
I agree with every word TSS, but this is where I get really patronising. One of the problems with trying to introduce much of the vast database of music to younger people today is that many of them simply haven't grown up listening to music. Just that, sitting down, in a room with friends, or alone with headphones, doing nothing but listening. You and I, and a lot of our generation, did plenty of that, but the introduction of the music video took the emphasis away from the pure pleasure of listening, and made the visual element a factor as well, like it is with a live concert. I'm not knocking live music, quite the opposite: as you know I spend a lot of energy trying to keep live music available in my corner of Somerset. In many ways I prefer my music live, but if ever I listen to studio-recorded music I don't need it to be dressed up with visual stimuli to appreciate it, or to be able to tell a bad 'un from a good 'un. I suppose what I'm struggling to get across is that music, the pure art form that it is, deserves to be given full attention, and shouldn't just be something that is on in the background while you do something else. Obviously a huge amount of popular music from across the whole of my lifetime and before is fit for nothing else but being a backdrop, but there is an awful lot that deserves more. So, PL, my plea to you is to try listening to something, anything, that has been made purely to listen to, and not made as a soundtrack to a TV show or movie.
Any one watching Earth's natural wonders on BBC1? Two boys in a tribe had to do a ritual. It involved putting reed gloves that had bullet ants woven in them. The two boys had to wear them for ten mins. The ants sting is like getting hit by a bullet hence their name.
It made me cry in pain and I was only watching. Had my favourite creature in the whole world on tonight as well.
Great example LTL. To go back a bit further in time, Captain Beefheart, or before that, John Coltrane.
That is true. 8'tracks in the car is where it all started for me. I can't come in on a music chat and not mention some benefits of listening to music by video though ... K
