Yep, but you love me for it! Tbf, I always knew Fly/I Believe I can Fly not being hated here was a longshot, Breakaway is really good though. It's a cover of Kelly Clarkson
All the soul and passion of a crippled zombie's last breath I'm afraid. The production is sooooooo horrible.
I suppose as a music manager, you can see the technical flaws in these songs which perhaps as someone with little experience of the nitty gritty of music production, I would be ignorant of.
Nothing to do with being a manager really Pomps, more just....having ears (though of course, each to their own). It's the very fact there are no technical flaws at all that's half the problem. Every single ounce of soul or interest in the performance is squeezed out by the over-production. It's pure Disney, and not in a good way.
So first of all Lapras mentions Glee in the same sentence as GOT and Breaking Bad. Then he starts posting **** Glee songs. Can I ban him? This is formerly Beefys Corner after all. I should be allowed one request.
If it was entirely upto me Beef I'd grant your request. There's a time and a place for mentioning that programme and this isn't it.
Perfect.! Might I just add that I watched 15 minutes of one of those progs to see what it was all about. I'll never get that quarter of an hour back.
Fair enough. I admit I'm hardly a connoisseur of music, I listen to something and I either like it or I don't. I have nothing against autotune necessarily: if a song sounds good imo, then I like it, whether or not it has autotone. And there are some great disney songs: my favourites are definitely Colours of the Wind and Make A Man Out of You! Quarter an hour of Glee? Which episode? Some of them are a bit... iffy.
Purity of voice is great when singing opera, but can be too perfect when singing ballads. My friend who loves opera doesn't understand me when I say that, but with opera the singing is everything, whereas emotion/feeling can be more important in other genre.
As the sage once said, there are two types of music. Good Music and Bad Music, and they can be entirely different in the ear of the beholder. However, as a separate issue, I would contend that Art, which is what music is a part of, comes out of suffering or experience. By and large, the best art comes from this and I would suggest that the best music does too. It doesn't come from a music and dance school, and neither does it come from people whose sole aim is for you to like it. The best music is often the most self indulgent stuff because the artist doesn't give a toss whether you like it or not. That artist is revealing the life experience from within and if that rings true with you then you're going to like it. That's a million miles away from much of today's mainstream happy, shouty, wholesome, 4/4 tunes. But each to their own.
I see your point. Some of the Glee performances since Corey Monteith died would perhaps have a much greater emotion and depth than any previous stuff, such as in the tribute episode The Quarterback. It's all well and good when a character dies in a tv series and the other characters are sad by it, but this was real, thus the sadness was real, the tears were real... and that's reflected in the songs for the episode. For example, this performance by Lea Michelle is heartbreaking [video]
No I get what you mean about how the best songs come from suffering or experiences as how can you properly convey emotion about something if it's not something you have experienced, how can you truly sing about love when you've never even had a crush? How can you truly sing about heartbreak when you've never been in a relationship (or rejected)? So yeah, I see your point. With something like Glee and Pitch Perfect and similar things, it's different because they're usually covers and even if they are related to the storyline, it's all acted. So it's hard to convey that experience because chances are, they don't have that experience. For example in the first series, Artie sang a song when he had a fantasy about being able to walk (he's in a wheel chair) and he sang Safety Dance by Men With Hats... obviously he's not actually disabled in real life so he lacks the experience of being in a wheel chair and longing to be able to dance so it wouldn't necessarily have the feeling of someone who has that experience. That was before Artie turned into an annoying character.
Telly techie man is coming to fix my new Sky Box tomorrow. It was delivered ages ago and I have moved the unopened box from room to room, flicked through the instruction manual a couple of times, but knew it was never going to happen. Conversation with techie man went something like this: TM...You want me to fit a new Sky Box. What's the problem with it? Nothing. TM...You have a problem with your system?. Nope. TM...There's a problem with your connections? Nope. TM...It will cost you a £50 call out. Fine. TM...It is easy to do, you know. He gave up at that point and is coming tomorrow.
Oh bless you Pomps - that's a lot better than the other stuff you posted precisely because it's stripped down and not Disney produced where you may as well have a cartoon chipmunk singing. But I'll give you a million. No, make that two million quid, if that was recorded outside of a studio. What you're watching there isn't her singing it at that point I'm afraid, so sorry if that shatters your illusions of it (and not taking away from her real sadness).
You can sing covers and "make them your own" (in Cowell parlance) although it's a lot harder. Here's an example of what we've been talking about - minimal production, an utterly imperfect vocal, there's a mistake on the second note on the guitar, a cover....but it kills you all the same because it's real.
