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Off Topic The Cecil should not have done one thread

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Baldrick's Cunning Plan, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

    HCAFC (Airlie Tiger) Well-Known Member

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    Its called caching and its a survival instinct.

    Basically foxes are scavengers/predators and food is not always readily available to them, when they get into a hen house instinct takes over and they hunt to excess with the intention of storing the food.

    It looks like its done for fun but its all instinctive.
     
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  2. Fez

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    I know you said it before, but saying it again doesn't change anything. The words that you use, mirror and reality, give emphasis to the fact that shooting at a moving target is more the norm and not a rare act. I think the key point is that any hunter may take aim on a static target, but, on shot release, that can change and is not controllable by the hunter - the only way to be absolutely sure of not shooting at a moving target (moving doesn't have to be anything other than a minor move to prevent a clean or incapacitating kill) is not to take the shot.

    I understand what game management is, I also understand that it might be possible to find false positives in making money from it, but I believe those positives could be achieved without the blood money. Just like your diving, perhaps they should only license photography and leave any necessary culling to rangers who would do it professionally and, hopefully, tinged with regret.
     
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  3. Fez

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    Agreed :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  4. Fez

    Fez Well-Known Member

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    It's good to see someone put that old chestnut into perspective - perhaps, if someone needs to confine chickens then they should be afforded better protection from natural predators.
     
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  5. Amin Arrears

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    Cats and dogs both.

    Some birds of prey kill for fun I learned today (one species in particular forgot which). As noted above foxes will kill anything they're not scared of. I'm no nature expert but I'd guess there are plenty of species that hunt for a laugh.
     
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  6. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Aye. Havent they shown Monkeys, cant remember which type, where they turn on one of their own and rip him to shreds. Sorta like bad blood builds up in the cartload and they release it by killing one of them.

    PS A collective term for monkeys is a Cartload. Thats ****ing great, oh and a barrel. Which is good too.
     
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  7. Tuckin

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    We're getting waaaaaay away from a rich human dentist paying thousands to be an utter ****.

    Not that I'm against thread drift, of course.
     
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  8. BlackAndAmberGambler

    BlackAndAmberGambler Well-Known Member

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    I had a piss in the sea in Turkey last year and for some reason I tried to shake the drops off. Crazy eh?<doh>
     
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  9. Charlie1

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    Poachers have now shot Cecils brother who was looking out for Cecils kids. Bunch of spineless twats. Big men with guns. How ****ing brave. Do the world a favour and just **** off eh.
     
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  10. Steven Toast

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    So let me get this straight. A lion that people liked (dare I say, loved? Probably not, I'd never heard of him until he'd been shot) has been killed. Instead of thinking "we should improve security measures around the park to ensure this doesn't happen again", more people turn up and shoot another one?

    Also, there are a lot of people saying "how brave, shot with a rifle". If he'd have successfully killed the lion with his bare hands, would he still be a coward?
     
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  11. Charlie1

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    Does it even matter that people hadn't heard of Cecil. What's that got to do with it? Nothing. Rifle, gun, pistol, bow and arrow, bare hands. Why the ****ing **** would you actually in this ****ing world or the next actually want to kill a lion for ****ing fun? **** wits. All of them.
     
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  12. Fez

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    Funniest thing I ever saw was a mate, a tad under the weather and struggling Keeping his breakfast down, snorkelling with me when he shot up, ripped off snorkel and mask and threw up big style - there was an eruption of water and the shoals came in and cleared the lot, knocking him all over the shop - the calamity of it all was hilarious! Some of the fish were jumping up at his mouth to be fed; never seen anything like it
     
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  13. Amin Arrears

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    Maybe because they enjoy it?

    They might say why the ****ing **** would you actually in this ****ing world or the next actually want to pay to watch a game of football for ****ing fun?

    Each to their own. Hunting has been a human hobby for thousands of years, all over the world, since as early as records could tell us. If you don't want to do it, then don't.
     
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    Cougars are well known for it <cheers>
     
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  15. Charlie1

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    **** off Bob. It's not hunting though is it? It's killing them just because they are there and they can. Daft twat. Football and killing lions. Yes, I've often thought they are exactly the same thing.
     
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  16. Steven Toast

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    I don't know why he shot a lion, it seems like a strange thing to do.

    It's that nobody had heard of this lion, but they'd named it, which is weird because it's a wild lion. So I found it very surprising that so many people were suddenly outraged by his death, when there are countless other animals (such as hippos, rhinos and gorillas) butchered in a similar fashion and those same people didn't bat an eyelid. I'd say they were equally as ****witted.
     
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  17. Amin Arrears

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    If anythings daft its your reply.
     
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  18. Steven Toast

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    That wasn't the point he was making. He wasn't comparing hunting to football in a literal sense, just that they're both things you can pay money and opt to do.

    My other question would be not so much the person who killed the lion, but who actually authorised the hunt of an endagered species? This guy paid money to somebody for the right to shoot it, so why was that allowed? Surely there should have been more done to protect the animals in the first place? See, everybody is so up in arms at this guy they're totally missing what's really important and that's the welfare of the other animals. While they're trying to nail this guy with billy big bollocks taunts and death threats, people are still hunting (and killing) the animals.

    Personally I think some of the threats he's recieved from people are ****ing disgusting. Whether you agree with what he'd done or not, it's appaling behaviour and a very poorly managed media campaign.

    The guy will have shot himself this time next year.
     
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  19. Fez

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    That's really angry, Charlie1; angry is okay. Arseholes with guns should make us all angry. <ok>
     
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    From Sky
    "The county has now suspended the hunting of lions, leopards and elephants in the area while it investigates the killing of another lion in July.

    A man from a private game park has been arrested over this case, officials said."

    The crime that Palmer committed was killing without a license.

    I'm not condoning big game hunting or excusing Palmer, but the point is that Zimbabwe allows big game hunting. It has only suspended hunts.

    From Time

    "The landlocked, southern African nation is one of the hardest-hit places on the continent when it comes to the killing of big game, both legal and illegal. It is a country where, Slate reports, “hunters exported 49 lion trophies in 2013 alone” and where, since Cecil’s death “it’s likely that at least a dozen other lions have been shot by trophy hunters.”A 2013 study in the journal Public Library of Science estimates that 96 lions were hunted per year between 1996 and 2006 in the country and 43 per year more recently. Lion trophy hunts were banned there in 2005 but allowed again after 2008."
     
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