When di maria couldn't pass a metre in front of him he was still creating chances. That being his primary job. Even when racking up 64% pass accuracy, he still created goals. Di maria has the highest chance creation in the league (might be second). So he did his primary role last season despite being rubbish at times. Chances lead to goals which leads to wins. Its fairly important stuff. Young wasnt creating much. The last month he picked it up and credit to him for that but he wasn't producing much. I know you dont care much for chance creation and assists but it happens to be a wingers primary role. Anyone with a bit of pace can beat a man, the quality is in the delivery.
That's not the case at all, of course creating chances count but I look at the bigger picture and if a player plays ****e then deflects a cross into someone's path off his arse from which someone then scores I still think he's played ****e and don't fawn over the assist he created. I base my opinion of a players form on what I watched, not by studying passing and assists stats after the game. Call me old fashioned like, but that's how I view football. My thoughts and opinions are ALL mine, not based on what some number crunchers or what some pundit has told me.
No mate what I'm laughing at is you took this post from Lostboi... And as ALWAYS you ignore ALL the valid points people make in a post (I've highlighted them for you in the post above) and instead like a child you hone in on one tenuous point to argue about. You never actually read something someone has posted and think hmmm...lets see what this person is saying here. Instead you're only fixated with your own narrow point of view. Anyone with any sense knew Lostboi wasnt saying 10% literally it was a generalisation that it's a very low level of pass completions. But you took that and immediately used some bullshit stat to brush aside the many points being raised in a well crafted post from someone who's talking a lot of sense.
My views are also mine but I will use stats to demonstrate a point too. Based on watching Young, hes regressed significantly since he joined but enjoyed a renaissance of sorts last season. It wasnt enough to completely wipe away those previous years where he embarrassed the club with diving and cheating as well as being the worst player on the pitch game after game. This pitch often included Cleverley and Anderson or Valencia (who was a much much better winger than Young but has regressed so much, hes no longer a winger). Im pretty sure we watched the same games last season and I am pretty sure you, like me, saw Young do the following... Stand the ball up and fake left before cutting in on his right to deliver a poor cross. Its what he does. Why he plays left wing I dont know (always has done, villa and watford). Based on his first season I would guess it was to allow him to be a goal threat, he scored some great goals that season. Last season it worked. Before that it didnt. The first year as I said, cutting in meant he lined up the angle and took a shot. Now he crosses, poorly. It effectively surrenders possession.
@UnitedinRed Another post with several great points all highlighting the flaws with that mophead (I've highlighted them again for you) There's no fcking hatred, he's simply not good enough for the reasons stated in bold. Your response..bcos you cant argue against any of it...is "ahhh you're contradicting yourself". Your head is well and truly in the sand mate. Anyway I'm tired of watching you polish that turd so I'll leave it there. I'm out.
Of course it wasn't literal. It was yet another unsubstantiated dig at a player who whether you like it or not, performed for us last season. The stat related directly to passing and because it made the anti fellaini brigade look silly, its suddenly not relevant. Yet for some reason, others felt it was necessary to explain how these stats were flawed because young is a winger and most lf his passes are crosses.... Strange how someone would need to clarify this but felt the stat was irrelevant.... Hmmmm. It doesn't end there though, just above in the quote, you very kindly highlight part of lostbois post. How Fellaini turns us into a longball team. What you fail to realise is the idea of us being a lont ball side is both incorrect and completely fabricated by the press. We make more passes than anyone, it stands to reason that we will make more short passes as well as more long passes. Lets now get on to the business of long balls. We do not hoof the ball. There is a degree of skill required to pick someone out 60 yards away. Our long passing stats are impressive. What we did was utilise a weapon in our squad. The manager had a plan A, B C D and the rest. Compared with other who become clueless or very reluctant to change.... I am happy with the versatile manager. You're opinion of United and many of the players is dreadful. Hoof ball side, **** manager, clueless people running it etc etc Try and say something positive about United in your next post. In fact, try goint the rest of the evenint withot sounding like miserable bastard.
Worst number 10 in the league? Based on what? My guess is nothing or opinion. Neither of which hold up at all.
No mate you still dont understand... or arent willing to. When Lostboi said Fellaini "can't pass" and had "like 10%" pass completions, anyone with any sense knew he wasnt talking about the 2 yard passes he's been reduced to playing or the majority of back passes he makes. Anyone with any sense knew he was talking about attacking play. And the number 10% was not literal it was a figure of speech, a generalisation hence the word "like" before it. It's not rocket science. You ask the question: What is everything I've highlighted in his posts based on? Watching him play But as I said to you earlier on, prove your point. List the specific things he does on the pitch...I dare you Your last paragraph is more bollox so I'll ignore it.
The stat is irrelevant. You're comparing a clueless short ball merchant to someone who throws crosses into a box. Me showing you that this is an irrelevant stat is not me in any shape whatsoever using a stat and validating it. It's merely me showing you stats can be irrelevant. Only too happy to clear this patently obvious bit of information up for you.
I suppose he could have twisted and turned then crossed the ball into the crowd over and over and over again. The exciting stuff...
UiR, Di Maria wouldn't have got in the Swansea midfield last season. Just admit it, for £60 million, he was utter ****e hence the likes of toilet brush and Young keeping him out of the side
Youngs crossing is dreadful. For such a key aspect of his game and job, you would think people took notice of it. As it is, both made similar contributions to the team last season. Both improved massively from the year before but neither wsa great. I wouldn't keep either (my view from the start) and certainly dont think Youngs running is enough to get a new contract. Treble then had heart failure and resorted to highlighting random parts of lostbois posts because.... Well I have no idea but I am guessing its an unhealthy, irrational hatred of some 7 foot Belgium. People really shouldn't let their dislike of a person, cloud their judgement. Take it from me, I went a little ott with Moyes but even I managed to praise him at times.
Mate, he would have played every game for you. Your manager wouldn't drop the player who created more than anyone else. Young created 1.8 chances per game. A reasonable figure I guess. Di maria created 4.6 chances per game. We as a team decided that all 3 of our strikers would have the year off from scoring. A regrettable decision. Of course those stats are irrelevant because Young did so much running. Forwards, backards, round in circles. He also stopped diving. Reducing his dives per game from 900 to 0.6. Credit where its due. If Di Maria goes, we need to find away to make those chances. Young certainly isnt going to do it. Nor is Fellaini. Neither are good enough, regardless of just how much Young ran and ran (rumour has it, it was a lot).
A lot of reason Young is getting praise for me is as much his willingness and adaptability when he had to play left back as his attacking play. He then moved back up front where he also played well. For these reasons I think he earned a new contract. I personally never made any reference to Fellaini other than to say he would struggle to get in my side but that I'd keep him as an option. That's it. Definitely don't rate him but nor do I hate him. The comparison between the passing of the two though is irrelevant as they don't play the same role. I didn't bring that up though, I never made any direct comparison between the two.
I was simply quoting what you said. I suggest you avoid "guessing" as you wrote, and start reading. It will be a start anyway.
Nor did I say you did. Trebles the one shaking his fist in disgust that Fellaini dared to play for United. I am simply pointing out that regardless of anyones personal views, Fellaini contributed substantially last season. Ive said many times that I wouldnt keep him or Young. As versatile as Young was (Fellaini didnt complain about being played all over the midfield, right midfield, attacking mid, striker or dm either) he still repeated the same thing. Hold it up, fake one way, go the other. He really wasnt great, just better than he had been.
