The left back changed so often it doesnt particularly matter(Blind was probably best of the 3). Those 3 played huge parts against City and Villa off the top of my head. It became so effective that the other flank, which itself was working great, was forgotten about. And I have no problem with Young. I can admit he was an improved player based on recent seasons but he was still way below his first year. I just dont feel he has warranted a new contract based on last season. You just dont like fellaini and no matter his contribution you wont change it. Thats just a blind dislike of a player without reason. Its weird.
That's just plain bollox. This thread and the fcking countless others I've listed specific problems with his game including those Lostboi has named to prove it's not a blind dislike The trouble is you dont want to read that. I've also praised Fellaini on match day threads where he's played well, so more bollox from you there. But the fact remains he is substandard and offers little if anything to the team. The only person who's blind is you...and daley. I can list 20 things that show Fellaini's not a good footballer. You cant name 2 to show he is. There endeth the lesson.
You haven't and your views are nothing more than bollocks because you dont like him. Lostboi also contradicts himself much like you when discussing Fellaini. Problems with his game? Therea not a player alive or dead who didnt have problems with their game. Young has many of them too. He, like Fellaini has qualities. They are nothing special but used right, can be very useful.
You name those 20 things. My counter is simple. You dont play for Everton, United and this Belgium side if you are such a bad footballer. Far better placed people than or I feel Fellaini has some qualities that make him suitable to top flight football and international football (with one of the worlds best teams). Or do you know better?
Would you like me to quote my posts and highlight in bold where those points are listed. In effect, treat you like a child? Bcos I'm happy to do that if you want. And then afterwoods I'll cut up your fish fingers for you as well and stack the peas on your fork too
Not contradicting myself, I know every team needs grafters. I don't hate fellaini, I just hate the way we play with him on the pitch, we always go long balls and u urself know fellaini has like 10% pass accuracy, he just can't pass . he is good enough as a squad player but far from a first reamer in a top team. Young on the other hand can run at defebders , can pass, can defend, can take free kicks and corners. They are both not good enough as starters for a top team, but I think young would still be a better squad player than fellaini. And with the crop of midfielders we have now, I really don't see fellaini playing much, u can't say the same for young as Memphis is his only competitor, I just hope LVG plays Memphis on the left wing instead of middle.
85% pass accuracy. Compared with Youngs 81% And nobody in our team seems capable of taking a corner, especially not Young.
Proof perfect that stats can be slewed to mean whatever you want. Taken at face value, Fellaini is a better passer of the ball than Young. The reality however Is that Fellaini is half the time knocking a short pass to an unmarked team mate while Young is sending a cross into a congested pernatlty area which defenders (plural) will attacked. Simple really. The truth is on that basis Young is better.
Lol, if u are counting 'pass to the nearest player' maybe. Even cleverley could be the best passer in the world with side and back passes. Fellaini plays right behind the striker but he hardly make intelligent or attack minded passes. With ur stats even fellaini looks a better passer than di maria because di maria is always looking to pass it forward, high chances of misplacing a whole lot.
Better to use the correct figures when discussing players. Otherwise people look silly and their whole argument falls flat.
For what it's worth I will only confirm what I said before, I would keep both as both can be useful. I just do not see how Fellaini secures a place in the side though. Who does he dislodge? Herrara as attacking CM? No chance. Mata at ten? No, not in any sane man's world. As striker? laughable. Young though can hold his won against anyone in his position, bar Depay. To me, he gets in on the opposite flank to Depay. Di Maria would have to get himself back into form and dislodge him but right now he shouldn't. We'll see, even if he does Young is still first choice sub for either flank. I can see it, it's based on the evidence of what I watched last season., I genuinely am surprised at those who haven't seen how well he played.
Youngs crossing is probably probably the last thing I would use in defence of him. Its horrendous. And chances are both players made passes under pressure due to their roles. I seem to recall people moaning Di Marias pass accurancy (same as Youngs). Nobody seemed to claim it was because Di Maria was crossing into a congested box though. The stats represent all passes, long or short and only those made legally. They tell us Fellaini is a better passes that people think and that Young has a pass accuracy rate similar to most wingers. It doesn't suggest one is better than the other nor was it implied. For the record, stats are very important in football. Clubs review them in great detail along with other performance detail. No idea why you think they would have no importance to a football club tbh.
Well to be fair, it was only a few months back that he was regularly dislodging Herrera and Mata. I doubt will on to many occasions going forward but who knows. Van Gaal likes him. He also like Young. With Rooney likely to play as a striker all season whats not to say lvg wont fit Fellaini in behind the striker?
Watch clips of Youngs first season here. Compare it to last season. The only reason he looked good is because of how utterly dreadful he was before. It was his second best season for us but miles and miles away from his best. Half the time he beat his man and failed to deliver a meaningful cross. Pointless. Just like Valencia as a winger. Can beat his man (with the same move) but his delivery was rubbish. Would you want Valencia as a winger?
Well you stating that stat suggests one is better than the other. A large portion of Youngs are crosses, as he's a winger so it definitely makes a difference when directly compared to a non winger known for making short passes to his nearest opponent. We're not a football club either, we're a bunch of blokes on a football forum so stats are largely irrelevant as we're basing our discussions on what our eyes tell us. I know clubs use stats but that is another story altogether. As for Di Maria, when his passing was woeful, ALL his passing was woeful, not just his crossing. He had a spell when he was simply piss poor and Young, by comparison, didn't. No stat can dispute that.
Cleverleys were around 80% too. He passed only backwards under absolutely no pressure most of the time.
He was a right footed player being played out left so is naturally inclined to cut in. Switch wings and he might get past his man and get a cross over more but he's being used on the left more often than not. I just do not see how Fellaini secures a place in the side though. - reason I requote this is because I don't see where he gets in the side. Me. van Gaal might very well decide to play him ahead of Herrera for instance but really I would contest that he's wrong in doing so.
