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James McLean scum or dead right

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Hash., Jul 19, 2015.

  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    If anyone knew I think they'd solve world peace at a stroke.

    I have no idea show to get a community to stop hating another. **** its 200 years since waterloo and RHC is on about hating the french <laugh>


    education should be integrated 100% but look at france banning the head dress etc, its not stopped the guys killing people there has it. if anything forcing it makes it worse.

    The biggest single thing will be opportunity and education. In short the working class is where the issues will lie most. the toffs at the top will talk to each other, shake each others hands and slop in the same troughs... the working class on both sides will see the other side as getting more and resent it.

    therefore the only way to get out of it is zero tolerance policies. Let people paint what they want on gable ends but clean the streets, don't tolerate a single boarded up house in an area. get shops open. get kids to school, give them every chance at a good education and job. I'd say it'll still be going on in 50 years time just like it will in ukraine, in estonia (where its not kicked off yet) and in south africa etc.

    I really cannot see it getting resolved by a footballer refusing to do something or playing along and keeping his head down either. he's just a symptom of attitude taught to him.
     
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  2. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Pussies should be ashamed of themselves tbh. Some of the worlds worst enemies put differences aside and fought for freedom. Not Ireland though. Shameful.
     
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  3. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    The irish need to get over it ffs. Do you see any animosity between Germany and England, or Germany and most places? No. Did germany do wrong? Yes. Were innocents killed? Land taken with no right? People made slaves in their homeland? Yes.

    Do people see those things as in the past, a lesson from history? Yes.

    Not the Irish though, nope, they hold on to that pain like they were the only peoples scorned. Bitter.
     
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  4. Master Yoda

    Master Yoda Well-Known Member

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    Yeh agree with all that.

    It's such a strange mix of progress and past here... In Carrickfergus the Tesco is opposite a paramilitary mural... we don't even notice it now. I can still remember all the streets and lampposts being painted red white and blue...

    But me and my friends all used our education, all went to university... we'll all end up working for UK/global companies that come to NI... that's the future we need as the post-Troubles generation. You want people to be too busy to start trouble!

    Guess change will happen at community level... building trust in the PSNI in republican areas, loosening IRA/UDA control, encouraging people into work. Pity those communities are about to be ****ed by the Tories.
     
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  5. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    Why would there be ? Yer royal family are german and from recent events in the media , Jew hating Nazis
     
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  6. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Lets keep it to facts and reality and not lizards eh?
     
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  7. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    Master Yoda , you arent British though. As things stand you are from the U.K. but no Britain.

    The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

    If Norn Iron was British then surely the whole place would just be Great Britain.
     
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  8. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    You do know the royal family are of German descent? Fact

    Windsor is not their surname it's an adopted surname to anglicise it. Fact

    Photos and video of the young Elizabeth and her Family giving Nazi salutes. Fact

    Not one lizard harmed in this post.
     
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  9. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    All Royal families are linked. The surname is irrelevant. The photo was before anyone knew or would have ever expected any of what followed.
     
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  10. Master Yoda

    Master Yoda Well-Known Member

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    Please don't tell me what nationality I am...

    (This ladies and gentlemen is the narrative I mentioned)
     
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  11. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    FFS <doh> It IS the ****ing latest <laugh>
     
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  12. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    I didn't tell you what nationality you are <ok> I told you which one you're not.
     
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  13. Master Yoda

    Master Yoda Well-Known Member

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    Not going to argue about it. Feel sorry for you if you can't see past your own view.
     
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  14. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter
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    He seems to be going out of his way to get attention here unlike most other Irish players.
    My issue is that he is happy to work in England and earn thousands of English pounds, yet sees fit to pull stunts like this.
    He's entitled to his beliefs and indeed to act how he chooses... but hypocritical behaviour like this gets on my moobs personally.
    He should shown more discretion about it after last time.
     
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  15. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    It's not just my view though. It's the view of the international community as well as the British government. Northern Ireland isn't British. If it was there would be no need to name it alongside Great Britain.

    I'm from the Republic of Ireland not the Republic of Ireland and Munster. There's no need to put the provence in because it forms the Republic of Ireland.

    Obviously Northern Ireland doesn't form part of Great Britain. When it's named Gb and NI.

    The and means it's a separate entity.

    There endeth my lesson.

    Mon the reds Milner on the score sheet again <ok>
     
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  16. Tobes

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    Exactly. He's done it knowing the reaction it's going to get, as he's been there before. He must revel in the hero status it gives him within the community that deems this to be 'making a stand'. It's pathetic imo.
     
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  17. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    Pulis should have expected it and not started him, that way he doesn't have to respect or disrespect anybody's anthem.

    Just out of curiosity why did he turn his back on NI to play for ROI?
     
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  18. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    Because he's a nationalist and doesn't recognise Northern Ireland as a nation/state whatever. In Nationalist eyes it's all part of Ireland. Many nationalists don't recognise the Republic either and refer to it as the free state. It's all a bit ****ed up tbh.
     
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  19. Hash.

    Hash. pure daycent

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    The rugby boys and the olympic squads etc. Have it right if you were born on the island of ireland you play for a team called ireland no republic or northern just ireland.
     
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  20. johnsonsbaby

    johnsonsbaby Well-Known Member

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    So he changed his mind half way in? He played for NI U21's but got all nationalistic somewhere in between ...
     
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