Yep, my current boss is in his mid 20's and probably on twice my salary. Had a meeting with the engineering director, who asked how I was getting on with this lad. Told him nice enough lad, but if I wanted management by textbook it would have been easier and cheaper to buy me the textbook (Tobes first quote sums him up perfectly), at this point I was lectured on how I should be mentoring him, to make him a better boss!!!!
Cheeky sod. No I'm a technical sales engineer. I sit in an office writing technical proposals and submitting tenders. My company would never let me anywhere near a customer. I'm a liability in front of customers, as I tend to tell the truth.
Take it from an old fart who's been there and got the straightjacket: this is the best advice you'll get. Your work is there to support your family life, not the other way round.
My advice would be to get a proper job that is actually enjoyable - unless you wanna waste most of your life sitting at a desk looking at figures, bored ****less. I personally couldn't think of anything worse. Obviously each to their own though
The people make the job enjoyable in my opinion. I've been doing similar job for a little while and our company had bit of a restructure and the wider department got split up a bit and unfortunately a lot of the guys used to work with are in different office now. Only in a small group of 5 of us now, all bar 1 are middle aged women who are ok, but can't have a proper laugh with any apart from 1 girl who is more my age. Used to enjoy going in for the laugh and general chat used to have, now sit most of the day in silence. Get a decent group of work colleagues and could be doing any kind of **** job and would be enjoyable
If you enjoy sitting around chatting then I guess you're right I'm fortunate that my job is so varied that every day is very different, ground hog day for me is a killer (but like I said everyone is different). I have an office but I'm rarely in it!
It's not just sitting around chatting.. but being able to have a decent conversation and a bit of a laugh. Even if you have a job that you enjoy, If the people and the manager you work for are **** and boring and you don't enjoy their company, the job becomes hard work. Having group of people can chat with while working makes the day go quicker and you don't dread going in as much I find Also having eye candy helps
Yeah I get what you mean, I've had a few jobs that have been mainly office based and had some great banter - along with the eye candy It just wasn't for me, although I do miss some of my ex colleagues. I prefer what I do now as I'm between about 4 locations, dealing with different situations daily. Personally I wouldn't fancy working in a bank though - I imagine 'bank banter' is a little dull
Oh let me tell you my tale of woe....... I left my best job to move to where I work now 8 years ago. Immediately I wanted to leave but I could not just up and go without having at least a year done or it'd look bad yeah? Well that put me in 2008 to 2009. Oh dear the arse fell out of everything and I was stuck. Frankly I moved for money and the pay was way more than I used to get so I was lucky etc etc. I then ended up like ibwt. I had 5 bosses over the time in different regions my office ended up over that time in with the accountants and my boss is now a woman and my collegues are now women too.... No banter. No football talk... Nothing. It is dull as ****. My achievements are as follows. 1. Closed facility resulting in 50 job losses and cut up machines. I had to do it. ****ing yanks. 2. Putting everything left into a new ****e facility that was not a patch on the old one and seeing people not give a damn do the work. 3. Build a whole new product range and equipment. 4. See said product range cancelled by slash and burn vp. See more people I worked with let go. 5. Get 50% pay rise over period for doing ****e all. 6. Have got to level 1075 on candy crush in office. 7. Do 2 days work max in 5. 8. Take as much fake work from home time as I want. 9. Sit in silence in office when we do go in. So......... when you get paid so much you get trapped in a hateful job.... blame the bankers I wish I was still in my best job running about doing all sorts of different stuff and chatting up the talent. Hot secretary for temp pool the accounts payable blonde. 4/5 different lasses on the production floor. My advice is still take the money but don't expect to love the job move on before you get trapped. I'm sure I can organise a pay off here next year when they hit cost slashing mode and I'm hoping to get a really good job then. In the mean time not 606, radio on head set, video games are my lot.
Most of the people I work with are female or retired but there are only four staff, three of which (including myself) are male between 34 & 40
Work for big companies when you're learning your trade. Once you've cracked it go and run a small company/start your own business. Working for JP Morgan you will meet a lot of ****s, morons and incompetents who have been hiding there long enough to make management level. You'll learn a lot from them.
yes you learn about how to move about and not acheive anything.. never make a mistake, talk a good show and move up up up. or you meet the guys stuck in the rut..... who know all the tricks. sure by all means if you can learn your trade and build a network of contacts to use when you set up on your own great do so... if you've the mindset to go do it.
Out of interest would do you all do for a living? I'll start - I'm a LAC Project Manager. LAC meaning Look After Child. I basically manage 4 houses that have young people aged between 16-21, with various vulnerabilities. Ranging from care home leavers, a history of abuse, homelessness due to being orphaned, autism, drug and alcohol problems, and mental health issues really - but not severe mental health. Amongst other issues, the list could go on and on! 2 of the houses are 4 bedroom's and 2 have 8 bedroom. It's a private firm and the owner is very passionate as he was in care as a kid, the houses are so nice, the decor and alliances etc. are so up to date - and it's a service that is unrivaled in our area due to the fact other services like ours are generally **** pits that the kids just run riot in. Our main goal from day 1 is to get them ready to live independently, so we help with everyday basic tasks etc etc. until they're confident to move on in life, then we help secure them accommodation and offer floating support for 12 weeks once they leave. The average stay with us is probably about 9-12months. Very rewarding job, although at times extremely challenging as they can right little rascals
Call center, quite happy doing it though it's easy and boring which is what I want. I did a fun job when I was younger and am now happy to chill and let Mrs luv bring in the cash.
Completely agree - my current job isn't great but I have made a lot proper mates here. Well ... I got the contracts etc and signed them. I will be joining the big bank! Decided. Shame I have to work a 3 month notice Thanks for the advice people. Now let's get back to arguing over Benteke.
