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4 in 10 get Cancer

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  1. Diaby's Massive Tekkers

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    Girvan Loyal 1690 Nobody's safe now

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    The Bad Cancer?
     
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    Jip Jaap Stam General Chat Moderator
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    Sorry but that just sounds like bollocks to me. No offence meant to the OP, I just think that the statistic is flawed.
     
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    I thought it was 1 in 3 but 33%/40%, still a fair old chance that it will get us.
     
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    Otto Flayshow Well-Known Member

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    We're all preprogrammed to die to ensure the evolution of the species. If it wasn't cancer, it'd be something else. That said, I'm sure we all know people who have died of cancer, and it's a particularly unpleasant way to go.
     
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    Well im pretty sure the charity made it out worse than it actually is. If it means getting more money from donations, I can see them tweeking some 'facts'.
     
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  10. I'm always dubious when percentages are expressed as "X out of 10".

    I deliver reports for a living and I would question the intent of any report that uses such colloquial terms to express a rate as they can be chosen to suit an agenda.


    4 out of 10, for example, could represent 35.00001% - and those questioned could've been 80% residents of Sellafield.


    That said, it is a horrible horrible disease and I hope it's not the cause of my demise <ok>
     
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    It's got to be the worst way to go. A disease that will effect the majority of us at some point in our lives whether personally or through someone we know it WILL effect you.
     
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    Exactly. I'm not trying to downplay the seriousness of cancer, just that it's not quite as endemic as suggested here.
     
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    Bummed to death?
     
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    Its also 1 in 2.5. Will someone think of Charlie Sheen?
     
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    How does this preprogramming work then?

    It's fascinating because I had been led to believe that all mammals/animals expire at around a certain number of heartbeats, except humans who have a uniquely wide range of ages at which (natural) death occurs.

    Cancer is horrible, but one or two I have been close to who have died from of cancer (died young) have shown great dignity - that's the important thing in death I think. We witnessed 70-80 years olds in tbhe wards who cried themselves "I don't want to die" - what we would have given for our loved ones to reach just 50.

    Cancer care in the UK is appalling though - a production line of chemo/radio therapy, no real humanity just a case of following a set procedure and playing the game out. When we conisdered alternative therapies, including Budwig, Gerson the doctors refused even to give an opinion. WHen we researched and came up with the latest drugs (Avastin/Monochlonal Antibodies), and offered to pay for these they didn't want to know - not even keen on trying it. When we contacted medical centres in the US, they were open to ideas and the doctors more approachable. Here we tried to work the network to get to see leading cnacer specialists but when they find that you already are in the system, they shut the doors. Thats unless you are rich - that opens more doors for treatment.

    It was the same story when someone I know had a baby with a genetic disease - I was put into contact with a leading UK authority and he said they was nothuing they coukld do, but when I was also put in touch with 2 reknown American doctors they said the opposite and gave me eveidence of what they could do. When we asked teh NHS here to send over a copy of the case file they took weeks, by which time it was too late.

    For anyone suffering from cancer I would recommend a book called "Anti-Cancer" - it's very thought provoking and challengecommonly held conceptions and offers real hope.
     
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