I've seen you whine plenty on here, my suspicion is you didn't say anything because you'd never take a pop at your beloved Mr Allam. Personally, I am happy to praise him for the good things he has done and point out when he is being a tosser. I think it's best to take a balanced approach like that.
That's just one zoo in Indonesia and tbf it is pretty horrendous. I wouldn't say all zoo's are bad, though.
I think your announcing post, followed by your subsequent slight back-track made your contempt very clear. I think Dalt sums it up badly, as it simply takes a Championship team's commercial deal and places it out of context simply to make an unnecessary dig at the club - it would be far better if things can be kept in perspective.
animals should be allowed to roam free in their natural habitat - not caged up for human amusement - I was giving an alternative view point to those posters who were going on about the ethics of gambling - there's also the ethics of whether it's right to capture a wild animal, ship it half way around the world and bung it in a cage for the rest of its life - it's actually quite nasty irrespective whether they get a cup of ovaltine before they go to sleep at night
As Filey pointed out, the owners do give to charity; as a business I would not call Hull City as awash with dosh (look at our level of indebtedness) so taking something is really quite responsible. If some have an ethical issue with the zoo element then sobeit, but I haven't (unless it is a badly ran one) as zoos do a great deal of good.
I don't mind Flamingo Land too much as a sponsor, prefer that to Cash Converters and shady far East gambling firms. Zoos serve their purpose protecting endangered species, they are not all about putting animals on display to be gawped at, in fact mortality rates for animals in Zoos are nearly always lower than those faced by species in the wild, and Brucey seems happy enough in that photo with the news please log in to view this image
I think most zoo owners would agree with you. How many animals are captured specifically to be displayed in zoos? The sad fact is, there are less and less places animals can roam safely. Zoos now tend to focus on conservation, an are involved in releasing animals back to the wild where possible. It'd be less ethical to close zoos.
Exactly, people are people and have anthropomorphic views of animals but without them (Zoos) we would lose so many species now, there are always going to be scumbags somewhere abusing animals and usually they are not connected with Zoos
I have no firm evidence, but I reckon zoos inspire plenty of young kids into a career in animal welfare. To say that they are all bad is a bit simplistic. Dammit, this thread will now be shut down for lurching into zoo politics. I apologise.
I don't know what the deal is, do you? I agre it is no biggie, but it would appear it is big enough to use as a stick when it really shouldn't be.
Perhaps if we put it in context with the City of Culture, the Tour de Yourshire and anything else (liners?) it might start to develop a thought.
The deal is, that they pay us and we put their crap logo on all our shirts, that's why I don't think it's a great one. To be honest, if they had a decent logo, I wouldn't be all that bothered.
It's good to see he's lost some weight .... & I've stopped laughing now ( & yes only just above twydale turkeys ..)
