Off Topic Political Debate

The government and the Conservative dominated previous coalition must have done a lot right. The UK has one of the best growth, job creation and low tax ambitions in the western world. The tax credit system was a bad idea and should be culled.

 

Public sector employment ballooned during the Blair / Brown years for purely political reasons to gain support for the government. The Conservatives have addressed some of this by stripping out unnecessary layers of management in the NHS, police, councils etc. Despite the left whinging that a similar number of jobs could not be created in the private sector, it has been acheived

 

Yes... agreed.... Superorns you haven not answered my queries above..

 

The reclassification I was referring to was of 196,000 jobs from further education and sixth form college teachers who became reclassified as private sector employees.

 

It is blatantly obvious that an individual's income should dictate the level of tax they pay, what is your point?

There was no alternative to bailing out the banks with public money because the banks had too little reserves and were to big to fail. It was the responsibility of the government of the day that happened to be controlled by the Labour Party although the Tories were just as ignorant of the dangers of a financial collapse.

 

The Conservatives are taking full control of the political middle ground and will increasingly be seen as the natural government for all. They are obviously confident that they could stay in power for another 20 years given the likelihood that Scotland will become independent.

 

Instead of becoming prematurely drunk on the prospect of 'permanent power' it may be more appropriate to concentrate on getting the party through the EU referendum in one piece without it disintegrating from within. At the present moment they are just a party who, through a highly unrepresentative, voting system managed to work out a 'majority' based on only 25% of the electorate. There is no really natural party of government - because the only really dominant features of British politics are fear and apathy. Fear for supposed bogeymen eg. immigrants, Scotland and the SNP, Europe - and apathy in that most English people are apolitical ie. the largest 'party' are nearly always the non voters and with only 1% of the population being actual members of political parties (the lowest in Europe) their relationship to politics can only be described as passive. You talk about the next 20 years - the Conservative party has less than 100,000 members and an average age of nearly 70 !

 

I was referring to your previous point below

...and checking out with you if you agreed with the two points made... which you say you do...

so.... what was the point of you making that statement if you agree to it?

 

no comment above ?

 

You left him speechless Yorkie!

 

We can be sure he will return with another comment

 

The point I was making is that the UK relies on these much maligned 'fat cats' to help subsidise the relative poor. It is not the majority of high earners that have avoided paying tax, it has been the multinational companies. This government, including their time in coalition, have been the first to address the perks of non dom status and tax avoidance by multinationals. The government will also reduce the benefit of declaring dividends instead of paying salaries.

The effect of the tax raising / benefit reduction has been fairly well spread.

 

see Dave

 

Yes

 

Well I hope the Govt goes after them.... of course there are NO links between Tory MPs and these companies and NO Tory MPS EVER have any association with them after leaving Parliament do they? ... Dream on Yorkie....

 

C'mon Dave, anymore of those

MP's from all parties line up lucrative jobs in the private sector using their contacts in government, one of the worst to exploit this was Tony Blair. Why just quote the dodgy tories?

 

... of course..

... because you are making it sound like the Tories are sorting it all our like previous govts haven't <yawn>

 

The Labour government failed in 13 years to address the non dom issues or taxed the multinationals. This government is doing both. yawn.

 

....and the Tories did nothing before that did they ... yawn.. .so where does that get this argument of yours?

This tit for tat politics... my party is better than yours stuff... is what alienates...and divides ... most people....