Toby signs for Spurs - official.
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The whole thing is completely disgusting and out-of-order... KFC?!!!!!
It's unethical FLT.
I did a summary yesterday morning, that's on page 52 [yikes]
So is Les Reed travelling to Madrid (or is he already there). Today's guardian article about Schneiderlin states that he is http://www.theguardian.com/football...ton-morgan-schneiderlin-27m-manchester-united
This seems to me to be based upon an implausible foundation. We're not talking here about a double glazing salesman waiting for an old biddy with alzheimers not to notice a date hidden in the small print on a contract. We're talking about a legal team waiting on another legal team to deal with a negotiation professionally. In that case, you can reasonably expect that if the other side do something (i.e. not pay you) then it's deliberate.
Also, there's another assumption in this argument, namely that we just sat on the other side of the table humming quietly to ourselves. For all any of us know, the Saints' legal team highlighted what was coming and the other side just said "we don't care, we consider it unenforceable/unimportant/worth going to arbitration".
Nobody knows what's gone on and it's tempting to try to guess but that's all it is; guesswork. Painting us as unethical seems a bit of a stretch.
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Disregarding all the legal ins and outs for a minute, the last price I have seen touted is £12.7m. Can't we just bid a bit more? Either we get him or it forces Spurs to pay more WIN WIN. It doesn't seem a ridiculous amount for him especially with ehe £1.5m discount.
But it's an opportunity to remind ourselves of this wee beauty.
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Here's hoping that Les Reed can come to some compromise. Legally we may be entitled to buy him at 6.8 mill, but a sweetener may get us the result we want where sticking to our guns may not. We should get close enough to the Spurs offer making a legal fight unattractive. However, Les should watch out....I still reckon they will spit in his coffee. 
Why you feel the need to point out I'm making an assumption in my post I really don't know. It's literally the first thing the post says... "If x happened". I'm well aware there's an assumption in there. It's not even my assumption, I'm commenting on a scenario proposed by DTLW some pages back.
To put the discussion in context, some of us have argued from the start that Saints should match the Spurs offer and do whatever is possible to get this deal done. One response to that was that the club feels they have acted morally and ethically correctly and shouldn't have to pay. DTLW also suggested that Saints had probably sat quietly and waited for the deadline to expire, knowing that Atletico were sleepwalking into trouble.
What I'm saying is that if that's what Saints have done then the moral argument against paying more holds little or no water. Rather than taking the high risk route we're currently taking, we should match the Spurs offer, get a deal in place and move on.
I'm really surprised so many of you fine people are willing to reward Madrid's breach of contract by throwing more money at them! In any other aspect of life a contract like this would be binding, it's only football in which it's deemed contracts are worthless. Ok we may lose Toby but I think it's absolutely the right thing to hold the line and bring Madrid to task and send a message that if you make a contract with us, you better bloody honour as we won't be bullied.
The problem with the whole darn saga has been so many conflicting messages, even now we see a newspaper saying the medical has been completed at WHL, another saying that we are saying that the deal was done and we weren't given the opportunity to bid. I will believe it only when I see the finalised details and not before.
The same goes about Spider "Ronald Koeman tells Manchester United to up the bid for Morgan Schneiderlin" says a newspaper report, really? RonKo making the deals? I don't think so.
The same goes about Spider "Ronald Koeman tells Manchester United to up the bid for Morgan Schneiderlin" says a newspaper report, really? RonKo making the deals? I don't think so.
Black asked for a summary. Ignoring all rumours and papertalk, the only thing we know is that we had an agreement in place to buy Toby for £X (not sure if even the 6.8 was ever confirmed) unless Atletico withdrew him from sale and paid us compensation of £Y. They haven't done that by the cut off date, so we want to buy him and consider that Atletico cannot sell him to anyone else. That's it...all the rest....us waiting like spiders in a web, Spurs giving him medicals, Atletico giving us notice weeks ago is all hear say.
Les Reed confirmed in the March On video that they keep RK in the loop as regards him choosing/agreeing to buy players, but they free him up from any concerns about the financial and contract side. Ron has always said that all of that is left to Les and his team. The day of the manager being involved in everything is out of date. I think one of the new signings mentioned that he was meeting Ron in person for the first time at training.
Medical at Spurs as we speak
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-likely-to-get-share-of-the-fee-10370980.html
As I read it, it is our legal team that fouled out, not AM?
Looks like Toby is going to Spurs now. Oh well, never mind, move on, rinse Atletico, sign another centre-back, finish above Spurs.
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