Toby signs for Spurs - official.

If so, it's still not that big a deal to me. I mean, the guy could have been stealing cash or making bad deals that have hurt our finances severely. Or there is some dysfunction in the front office and this guy is being scapegoated. Which is not at all to say that I'm in meltdown or anything of the sort. I don't believe that happened.

Most likely, this is just an odd coincidence. Or if he really did screw up the Alderweireld transfer, it's still not that big a deal to me. People screw up. And if the team feels like this hurt us in the Alderweireld transfer then that guy should justifiably be sacked and we move on. It happens. It's all good.

I like Alderweireld a lot and everything, but we aren't going to get every player we want. If the black box and Reed are as good as we think, they will have lined up alternative plans.

 

Don't bet on it whiteley,after reading some of the posts on here I doubt if some know what their todgers are for.

 

At least I think we can rule out the Spurs medical. We would surely have heard something by now if that was the case?!

 

Hope this doesn't last until the transfer deadline...

 

If I was a single player on loads of dosh then London would be an obvious attraction, is I was a young guy with a young family then Hampshire would be first choice. Heres hoping that mr and mrs Toby are looking to start a family soon

 

True, we'll have already played about 25 games by then.

 

I'm chilled....

 

I am old enough to have been aware of Doris Day before she became a virgin!

 

For what it's worth, here is my take on things now.

Atlético have reneged on the agreement (which is sound, and proper), but are going to be complicit to forcing through Toby's move to Tottenham. As far as Toby is concerned, I believe that he genuinely holds a lot of fondness for Saints and would gladly sign here, had it worked that way. However, Saints clearly feel that they've been played here, and aren't entirely happy to just roll over and chuck Madrid yet more money.

Toby appears to be at the stage of completing the medical and doing the contract, and signing with Spurs in London sometime this week. If that becomes increasingly protracted, then maybe he is holding out for Saints after all. I don't have any bad blood towards Toby, or for that matter, Tottenham. They would have been just as unaware of the clause in the agreement as the rest of the nation until it was thrown into the spotlight by Saints.

There is of course a chance that Saints could strike a deal that is the same, or better, than Spurs' offer to both the player and the club, but it's fair to say that club relations are pretty much at breaking point between Southampton and Atlético Madrid. Of course, you have to ask the question of whether they'd be willing to go into business with Saints if we could make them a better offer, when things already seem to have progressed fairly rapidly. You also have to question whether Les Reed and the higher powers that be at Saints really want to get down this route if they believe they've acted ethically and with correct morals.

Toby wanted a move to a Premier League club, and he wanted it to be sorted so that he could actually have a good pre-season this year. I don't think he is overly concerned as to which of the two clubs really went for him, as both had their respective plus-points. With Spurs, the Belgian connections and the London lifestyle and potential for a new stadium and regular European football. With Saints, Toby had a squad he knew, a place he had been living for a year and a chance to reunite with Koeman.

As I see it, it looks like Madrid are going to do the deal with Spurs and end up in the courtroom with Saints.

Our anger, frustration and ire should be directly at Atlético, and not Toby Alderweireld, or even Tottenham.



(just my pennies)

 

Or Saints.

 

Or Saints what... our frustration? We've acted fine.

 

Yep. You just have to look at some of the posts in this thread.

 

Not being funny but this is now doing my t*ts in. If he signs for us great, if he doesn't, he doesn't, and move on.

 

Welcome Ogbonna!

 

Is he signing or was that a joke

 

Ogbonna was awful at Juve. If we can make him look as good as Lovren looked in our defence it would be a miracle.

 

All this thread tells me is that nobody knows what's going on

 

If that's the player then great, let's get him in ASAP, and trust Koeman.

 

No. Something still doesn't make sense here.

Why would Atletico sell Alderweireld to Spurs IF 1) Alderweireld was happy to play for Saints and 2) We offered Atletico the same or more money?

 

1) Toby is happy to sign for either club
2) Saints are unlikely to offer up more money when we have a binding legal agreement - (although, we could... - but we'd be making mugs of ourselves)


Now it's just a case of whether AM will break it once and for all by selling him on to a third party - I think they're prepared to.