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Which might make sense if the entire building wasn't a metal frame Tobes, even if the foundations were blown out by explosives the building cannot collapse like that.

You would need to have failures all over the steel frame throughout the building.

Essentially what I am saying, what happened the floors and steel between the basement and the roof? How it it freefall? How was there no pancake or any resistance, how did the roof fall as if there was nothing beneath the roof
#impossible

 

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6.5 seconds which is feefall as if nothing was beaneath the roof as it fell, this is only possible with demolition, it fell so straight you could use it's descent as a level

There was only resistance at 5 seconds when it was basically a pile of rubble

 

Set aside the actual thing hitting the deck for a moment and ask yourself the question - why?

It makes zero sense and would have zero strategic benefit in the supposed grand hoax either.

There's plenty of counter claim to the supposed 'facts' put into the public domain by the conspiracists btw

http://debunking911.com/pull.htm

 

You do know the official NIST report admits WTF 7 fell at freefall? And didn't explain it.

What do you mean why? to get support for Iraq and Afghanistan which were planned before 9\11 obviously. It's been a 12 year massive profit making war for Dick Cheney's haiilburton and others after all. Like a war drum beating polotician who works for a weapons maker has no conflict of interest here.

I alsready proved he knew it would destroy the region in another thread if you remember.

The money made from those wars are more $$ than you can imagine


and dont tell me these people wouldnt plan to kill their own, I already proved they would, and did only for kennedy stopping them, you think that had nothing to do with Kennedy being killed.?

George Bush's Daddy was part of the oil robber barons group that had kennedy killed

 

Not only that mate, they created the DHS and patriot act was brought in giving the feds the right to do anything, the NSA anything and without warrants.

The money made from this and the loss of liberities and also after 9\11 the amount of people who enlisted was nuts swelling the ranks pre iraq invasion and stoked up "patriotism".

9\11 didn;t only kill 3000 Americans it ended up killing well over a million people in Iraq and Adghanistan and that lead to the Libyan crime too.

Pre the US invasion of Afghanistan, the heroine trade in Afghanistan was almost wiped out by the taliban, today, it is 90% of the worlds heroine supplier all this happened under US occupation, US troops patrolled poppy harvests ffs, and it is known, by everyone that the CIA have been running drugs since there has been a CIA, see Contras and Reagan.

US troops protecting poppy heroine and opium harvests

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/10/14066.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/world/asia/21marja.html?_r=0

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Do you know how much that drug trade is worth? Probably more than made from the wars and it is yearly profit. Afghanistan was invaded for heroine, not terrorists. The "terrorists" came from Egypt pakistan and Saudi Arabia, not one came from Afghanistan

 

What I find most shocking is that you think the US government are THAT stupid.
That they would say it was hit by planes instead of just bombing it, and that they wouldn't instantly know that fire doesn't melt steel.

President Bush: Ok, so we want to create a terrorist attack on US soil, how should we go about this

CIA Op #1: Lets plant two HUGE **** off bombs in the basement of both WTC towers so they reduce it to rubble, then blame it on Al Qaeda.

President: Sounds good, ok so lets......

CIA Op #2: No I have a much better idea, lets plant two smaller bombs at the top of both buildings, then CGI two planes on News footage making it look like planes were crashed into them...

President: What?

CIA Op #1: Thats stupid, what about all the eye witnesses? they would see no planes, even if we edited the footage, and jet fuel doesn't even burn hot enough to melt steel, everyone knows that

CIA Op #2: I haven't finished yet, we will need to hire the most inept guy to do the CGI too, so that the plane appears to pass harmlessly through the building, then demolish the buildings with a blatantly controlled demolitions explosion.

President: I really don't think that will wash, it's too unbelievable

CIA Op #2: That's why its the perfect cover story

CIA Op #1: Dude you are seriously ******ed? Why are doing this anyway? This will cost us billions! The towers alone cost $2.3 billions US dollars to build, not to mention the loss of all stock exchange trading, the market will plummet, plus thousands of people will die, the compensation pay outs will be huge, plus our military budget will need to be increased ten fold.....why are we even doing this?

CIA OP #2: Ya know, cos like.....Oil and stuff?

President Bush: Well i'm sold, lets get to work

 

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Ok I could go along with that being true so a couple of basic questions about how they did it then,

Did they set up some wannabe terrorists as fall guys?

Did airplanes hit the twin towers and pentagon?

How did they bring down the towers?

 

Your guess is as good as mine but lets not forget, the US military, joint chiefs of staff, the CIA had planned an operation to hijack American planes and blow up American ships and kill Americans in order to get public support and a pretext for a war against Cuba in 1962. They planned it out, so it obviously can be done.

Kennedy went beserk when he seen the plan.

If they can plan it in 1962 they can plan something in 2000. Don;t you think that is a fair assumption

 

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The Vietnam war was also a fake pretext and US multinational corportations were funding the Russian factories that were arming the vietcong. US corporations were literally causing the deaths of American soldiers and extended the war far longer than it should have been, in order to make money

The same multinationals funded the Nazis in WWII. Also a fact.

Corporations run america not politicians

 

Also, "Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport."

Now how is that for a coincidence

 

I think they could plan something small but nothing on this scale and keep it a secret.

 

No, you've evaded the simple question I asked, why demolish wtc 7 hours after the twin towers fell?

What would that have gained the Govt lead atrocity?

The falling of that building has been held up as the smoking gun by the conspiracists, but they've failed to answe that simple question, as they can't.

 

Everyone is not in on the secret. Most people were just doing their jobs.

Do you know, when the first plane hit the north tower, people were evacuating the south tower before it was hit, they were prevented from leaving by security, the security owned by Bush's brother 1100 people died in that tower even though there was a lot fo tme to evacuate after the north tower was hit

 

Why do you treat this like a game you fool, I evaded nothing, I missed it
Do you know how much they were insured for? Silverstein rented the WTC and made billions on the insurance claim.

he also got billions to rebuilt them, WTC 7 was the operations centre and it has to be destroyed


Silverstein had to otherwise spend millions removing asbestos cos WTC north and south was full of the stuff

 

You are asking vague questions when the physical facts are there, that is was demolished, your question is a smoke and mirrors question. It cannot be proven, it cannot be known, but the demolition is undenyable

 

So no one things Bush junior owning the security company for WTC the airport and airline is not a ref flag?

 

As I said
Also, "Marvin P. Bush, the president's younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport."

Does this not seem odd?

My bollocks.

when the first plane hit the north tower, people were evacuating the south tower before it was hit, they were prevented from leaving by security, the security owned by Bush's brother 1100 people died in that tower even though there was a lot fo tme to evacuate after the north tower was hit and when it eventually collapsed, most people should have got out but they were prevented from leaving. Plus the elevators were taken out to make sure people had to use stairs when they eventually were being evacuated

 

So the demolition was undeniable?

If that's a fact why didn't just pull it down like they did the other 3 ffs, without a fuss without explosives and without the chance of being found out by some tit of a student sat in his skids on the internet

 

Owned it or principal? What was his role as principal?

 

You evaded the simple question I put to you, you've now seemingly answered it.

It was the 'operations centre' yeah , great idea that plot the entire thing from next door. You swallow some utter guff.