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  1. astro

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    In his previous ****ups he's just called it a "procedural error"
     
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    Well that explains it then, cant believe you dont have more faith in him.
     
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    As with the other alarmists when presented with science you cannot refute you attack the man. I doubt that is lost on anyone, I notice you ignored the accuracy of his predictions.

    The close correlation of sun spots and earth's climate is proven beyond any doubt over hundreds of years of sunspot recordings and corresponding earth climates. It is science. You religious clown <laugh>

    Also there is scientific "evidence" not proof, statistical correlation and scientific evidence of atmospheric electrical events and major earthquakes.
    Science
    http://www.nat-hazards-earth-syst-sci.net/11/987/2011/nhess-11-987-2011.pdf

    A paper on atmospheric electricity and earthquakes.
    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/GL003i003p00185/full
    If you were not such a ignorant fool earthquake prediction is also part of Meteorology and Corbyn is a meteorologist but you are too ignorant to even do basic research, you just look for the first links that you can use to taint him and you never posted your sources. You ****tard <doh>

    So Corbyn is not crazy as you are trying to make out.
    Astro looks like a twat yet again.


    I have proved Hansen at NASA is a fraud and you ignored that.
    I proved the 97% is a fraud, you ignore that.

    So anyone who agrees with man made global warming is never in question and anyone who disagrees is what? crazy?

    You're such a tit <laugh>
     
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    See above post, you are talking cack.
     
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    ignore this astro?. This is not Corbyn's work it is the work of another solar physicist.

    These data plots alone debunk man made global warming.

    Record summer arctic ice.
    highest greenland level gains since 2005
    record antarctic ice, most in human history.

    The facts just own any old bullshit you come up with. This whole debate has been me owning you. <laugh>
     
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    Cited literature in atmospheric seizmic science. Again Astro is proven to be a twat. <laugh>
    I am not interested in this science but I had known about it. Astro you are one of the most ignorant people I have ever come across. I seriously hope you don't reproduce cos it would be a shame for you to infect childrens minds with such ignorance. :bandit: @terrifictraore you'd like to have a go at predicting earthquakes yourself would you, I think the science might be beyond your intelligence level mate <ok>
    1. 1P.I. Nenovski, M. Pezzopane, L. Ciraolo, M. Vellante, U. Villante, M. De Lauretis, Local changes in the total electron content immediately before the 2009 Abruzzo earthquake, Advances in Space Research, 2015, 55, 1, 243CrossRef
    2. 2J. Tacza, J.-P. Raulin, E. Macotela, E. Norabuena, G. Fernandez, E. Correia, M.J. Rycroft, R.G. Harrison, A new South American network to study the atmospheric electric field and its variations related to geophysical phenomena, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2014, 120, 70CrossRef
    3. 3V. A. Liperovsky, R. M. Umarkhodjaev, V. V. Mikhailin, V. V. Bogdanov, S. A. Maltsev, E. V. Liperovskaya, A. V. Kaisin, E. G. Leksina, A method of searching for earthquake precursors based on remote sensing of local electric fields in the atmosphere, Seismic Instruments, 2010, 46, 3, 286CrossRef
    4. 4R.G. Harrison, K.L. Aplin, M.J. Rycroft, Atmospheric electricity coupling between earthquake regions and the ionosphere, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2010, 72, 5-6, 376CrossRef
    5. 5Robert D. Cicerone, John E. Ebel, James Britton, A systematic compilation of earthquake precursors, Tectonophysics, 2009, 476, 3-4, 371CrossRef
    6. 6Yasutaka Omori, Hiroyuki Nagahama, Yusuke Kawada, Yumi Yasuoka, Tetsuo Ishikawa, Shinji Tokonami, Masaki Shinogi, Preseismic alteration of atmospheric electrical conditions due to anomalous radon emanation, Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Parts A/B/C, 2009, 34, 6-7, 435CrossRef
    7. 7M.N. Gousheva, R.P. Glavcheva, D.L. Danov, P.L. Hristov, B.B. Kirov, K.Y. Georgieva, Electric field and ion density anomalies in the mid latitude ionosphere: Possible connection with earthquakes?, Advances in Space Research, 2008, 42, 1, 206CrossRef
    8. 8V. M. Sorokin, A. K. Yashchenko, M. Hayakawa, Electric field perturbation caused by an increase in conductivity related to seismicity-induced atmospheric radioactivity growth, Russian Journal of Physical Chemistry B, 2007, 1, 6, 644CrossRef
    9. 9V. M. Sorokin, Plasma and electromagnetic effects in the ionosphere related to the dynamics of charged aerosols in the lower atmosphere, Russian Journal of Physical Chemistry B, 2007, 1, 2, 138CrossRef
    10. 10Viktor A. Mullayarov, Rustam R. Karimov, Vladimir I. Kozlov, Variations in thunderstorm VLF emissions propagating over epicenters of earthquakes, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2007, 69, 13, 1513CrossRef
    11. 11V.M. Sorokin, A.K. Yaschenko, V.M. Chmyrev, M. Hayakawa, DC electric field amplification in the mid-latitude ionosphere over seismically active faults, Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Parts A/B/C, 2006, 31, 4-9, 447CrossRef
    12. 12V.M. Sorokin, V.M. Chmyrev, A.K. Yaschenko, Possible DC electric field in the ionosphere related to seismicity, Advances in Space Research, 2006, 37, 4, 666CrossRef
    13. 13Y. Hobara, M. Parrot, Ionospheric perturbations linked to a very powerful seismic event, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2005, 67, 7, 677CrossRef
    14. 14D.J. Karangelos, N.P. Petropoulos, M.J. Anagnostakis, E.P. Hinis, S.E. Simopoulos, The Natural Radiation Environment VII: VIIth Int. Symp. On the NRE, 2005, 7, 187CrossRef
    15. 15V.M. Sorokin, V.M. Chmyrev, A.K. Yaschenko, Theoretical model of DC electric field formation in the ionosphere stimulated by seismic activity, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2005, 67, 14, 1259CrossRef
    16. 16S.A. Pulinets, A. Leyva Contreras, V. Kostoglodov, H. Perez de Tejada, J. Urrutia-Fucugauchi, Prevention project: a complex geophysical observatory in Mexico as a test facility for lithosphere–atmosphere–ionosphere coupling models, Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Parts A/B/C, 2004, 29, 4-9, 657CrossRef
    17. 17V.M. Sorokin, V.M. Chmyrev, A.K. Yaschenko, Electrodynamic model of the lower atmosphere and the ionosphere coupling, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2001, 63, 16, 1681CrossRef
    18. 18V.M. Sorokin, A.K. Yaschenko, Electric field disturbance in the Earth-ionosphere layer, Advances in Space Research, 2000, 26, 8, 1219CrossRef
    19. 19V.M. Sorokin, V.M. Chmyrev, M. Hayakawa, The formation of ionosphere–magnetosphere ducts over the seismic zone, Planetary and Space Science, 2000, 48, 2-3, 175CrossRef
    20. 20Yukio Fujinawa, Kozo Takahashi, Electromagnetic radiations associated with major earthquakes, Physics of the Earth and Planetary Interiors, 1998, 105, 3-4, 249
     
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  7. terrifictraore

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    go on then, prove with your "scientific evidence " that people can predict earthquakes before they happen,

    cherrypicking predictions after the fact is not evidence, we can all play silly games with stats.

    that reminds me, I am still waiting for the data on your "more right wing killings in US since 9/11" stuff.
     
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    1. 1P.I. Nenovski, M. Pezzopane, L. Ciraolo, M. Vellante, U. Villante, M. De Lauretis, Local changes in the total electron content immediately before the 2009 Abruzzo earthquake, Advances in Space Research, 2015, 55, 1, 243CrossRef
    2. 2J. Tacza, J.-P. Raulin, E. Macotela, E. Norabuena, G. Fernandez, E. Correia, M.J. Rycroft, R.G. Harrison, A new South American network to study the atmospheric electric field and its variations related to geophysical phenomena, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2014, 120, 70CrossRef
    3. 3V. A. Liperovsky, R. M. Umarkhodjaev, V. V. Mikhailin, V. V. Bogdanov, S. A. Maltsev, E. V. Liperovskaya, A. V. Kaisin, E. G. Leksina, A method of searching for earthquake precursors based on remote sensing of local electric fields in the atmosphere, Seismic Instruments, 2010, 46, 3, 286CrossRef
    4. 4R.G. Harrison, K.L. Aplin, M.J. Rycroft, Atmospheric electricity coupling between earthquake regions and the ionosphere, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2010, 72, 5-6, 376CrossRef
    5. 5Robert D. Cicerone, John E. Ebel, James Britton, A systematic compilation of earthquake precursors, Tectonophysics, 2009, 476, 3-4, 371CrossRef
    6. 6Yasutaka Omori, Hiroyuki Nagahama, Yusuke Kawada, Yumi Yasuoka, Tetsuo Ishikawa, Shinji Tokonami, Masaki Shinogi, Preseismic alteration of atmospheric electrical conditions due to anomalous radon emanation, Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Parts A/B/C, 2009, 34, 6-7, 435CrossRef
    7. 7M.N. Gousheva, R.P. Glavcheva, D.L. Danov, P.L. Hristov, B.B. Kirov, K.Y. Georgieva, Electric field and ion density anomalies in the mid latitude ionosphere: Possible connection with earthquakes?, Advances in Space Research, 2008, 42, 1, 206CrossRef
    8. 8V. M. Sorokin, A. K. Yashchenko, M. Hayakawa, Electric field perturbation caused by an increase in conductivity related to seismicity-induced atmospheric radioactivity growth, Russian Journal of Physical Chemistry B, 2007, 1, 6, 644CrossRef
    9. 9V. M. Sorokin, Plasma and electromagnetic effects in the ionosphere related to the dynamics of charged aerosols in the lower atmosphere, Russian Journal of Physical Chemistry B, 2007, 1, 2, 138CrossRef
    10. 10Viktor A. Mullayarov, Rustam R. Karimov, Vladimir I. Kozlov, Variations in thunderstorm VLF emissions propagating over epicenters of earthquakes, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2007, 69, 13, 1513CrossRef
    11. 11V.M. Sorokin, A.K. Yaschenko, V.M. Chmyrev, M. Hayakawa, DC electric field amplification in the mid-latitude ionosphere over seismically active faults, Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Parts A/B/C, 2006, 31, 4-9, 447CrossRef
    12. 12V.M. Sorokin, V.M. Chmyrev, A.K. Yaschenko, Possible DC electric field in the ionosphere related to seismicity, Advances in Space Research, 2006, 37, 4, 666CrossRef
    13. 13Y. Hobara, M. Parrot, Ionospheric perturbations linked to a very powerful seismic event, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2005, 67, 7, 677CrossRef
    14. 14D.J. Karangelos, N.P. Petropoulos, M.J. Anagnostakis, E.P. Hinis, S.E. Simopoulos, The Natural Radiation Environment VII: VIIth Int. Symp. On the NRE, 2005, 7, 187CrossRef
    15. 15V.M. Sorokin, V.M. Chmyrev, A.K. Yaschenko, Theoretical model of DC electric field formation in the ionosphere stimulated by seismic activity, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2005, 67, 14, 1259CrossRef
    16. 16S.A. Pulinets, A. Leyva Contreras, V. Kostoglodov, H. Perez de Tejada, J. Urrutia-Fucugauchi, Prevention project: a complex geophysical observatory in Mexico as a test facility for lithosphere–atmosphere–ionosphere coupling models, Physics and Chemistry of the Earth, Parts A/B/C, 2004, 29, 4-9, 657CrossRef
    17. 17V.M. Sorokin, V.M. Chmyrev, A.K. Yaschenko, Electrodynamic model of the lower atmosphere and the ionosphere coupling, Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics, 2001, 63, 16, 1681CrossRef
    18. 18V.M. Sorokin, A.K. Yaschenko, Electric field disturbance in the Earth-ionosphere layer, Advances in Space Research, 2000, 26, 8, 1219CrossRef
    19. 19V.M. Sorokin, V.M. Chmyrev, M. Hayakawa, The formation of ionosphere–magnetosphere ducts over the seismic zone, Planetary and Space Science, 2000, 48, 2-3, 175CrossRef
    20. 20Yukio Fujinawa, Kozo Takahashi, Electromagnetic radiations associated with major earthquakes, Physics of the Earth and Planetary Interiors, 1998, 105, 3-4, 249
    All of this proves you and Astro were talking ****e, that's all the proof I need.

    You idots had no clue atmospheric electrical activity was linked to earthquakes, and you now are rightly shown to be ignorant fools

    you see research is important, I am posting scientific sources and you are giving idiotic uneducated opinions. It's why you always end up looking like a fool.

    Don't like debating science with scientific sources? Then why are you posting on this? Is it about me? That's pretty sad
     
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    if I am ignorant of this then I would like to be enlightened, please tell me what earthquake any of these predicted and how seeing how you claim you are (at times ) a fan of science how that prediction can be proven to be more than just chance.

    PS I am still waiting for the data on your "more right wing killings in US since 9/11" stuff.
     
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    Again avoid the subject and play your stupid games, and now you are talling about 9\11 which proves everything I say about you<ok>

    it shows how much of a lame human being you are.
     
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    I can't refute Corbyn because he refuses to publish his method.

    But his method doesn't work. End of.

    I also don't refute graphs with two lines on top of each other and no causal relationship offered.
     
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    How the feck am I avoiding the subject, I posted my doubts about predicting earthquakes, you then dismissed my post so I asked for evidence, in response to my request for evidence you then attack me as a person. Please stay on topic and show me the evidence of earthquake prediction.

    PS the 9/11 stuff is from a claim you made a day or two ago that you ignored when asked to back up.
     
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    But we know from the past you have read zero of these articles. And even if you did read them you would be unable to judge their quality.
     
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    His medication isn't working. Between today's #meltdown and his freak out over seeing some clouds the other day I think he needs a stronger dose.
     
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    #nosources
     
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    Posting scientific sources is now a meltdown <laugh>
    #nosources

    Terrifictroare alligns himself with anyone disagreeing with me, he craves validation.

    You astro are just ignorant and the bog standard internet warrior.
     
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    haven't seen todays meltdown yet, but either way he could not possibly need medication as he is a regular long term weed smoker and therefore his mental health must be perfect.
     
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    No we both know that is not true shall I post the relevant bits of discussion between you and astro making a mockery of Corbyn's claims on earthquake prediction based on atmospheric conditions.

    You didn't believe it was a science. You were proven wrong.

    As always you and that other insecure fool need to argue with me instead of dealing with the subjec.

    Astro hates that I prove his alarmist man made global warming to be a fraud, he hates being wrong even more
     
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    @Bodanki
    More Deltmown claims. <laugh> Your sig is bang on
     
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    People agreeing that you talk shyte could just be yet another conspiracy theory for you to revel in. however, it could equally be that you are talking shyte.

    to prove me wrong you could just post the scientific evidence of people successfully predicting earthquakes.
     
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