Off Topic Mafia VIII - Mafia vs Zombies
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Bobby the worst case is we lynch a SK who is now infected and turns biter. Then we miss sz too.
We need to be careful. There are enough of us v 3 Mafia if we all hunt out the zombies tonight.
I would prefer to be clear however.
If you think locking up is wise you also negate any theif action tonight. You decide.
We need to be careful. There are enough of us v 3 Mafia if we all hunt out the zombies tonight.
I would prefer to be clear however.
If you think locking up is wise you also negate any theif action tonight. You decide.
OK who do people think Lucaaas is, the mafia hitman or the SK? This is key as it affects Astro's fate and it affects what the thief will do.
Oh, I vote Lucaaas by the way.
Astro is not that urgent right now as we won't kill him anytime soon, we'll wait to see if Lucaaas is SK (which clears Astro) or if he is Mafia Hitman (which means Astro could still be SK).
However it does affect the thief. If Lucaaas is not the mafia hitman then the thief will definitely steal bullets tonight. If Lucaaas is the hitman then the thief will definitely attempt to hack the paper tonight as stealing bullets is useless.
I think Lucaaas is Mafia Hitman due to my suspicion that Astro is SK, but I'm keen to hear other posters' views...
Haha not angry pal and what I was talking about was more of a general statement about how I think Mafia should be played in a fair and good spirit, not about this game specifically as it doesn't matter really anymore, and I still think you're valiantly playing the 1% so no reason to be angry at you. Also I fairly strongly suspect Gerrez is mafia and Astro is SK, and did before you came out, not dismissing your ideas just questioning your motivation.
In fact if anyone wants to look back, when it was suggested early yesterday that people put out their top 3 to be lynched (And I was the only one to actually do it I think) my 3 were Gerrez, Lucaaas and Astro (and if I were to do a 4th it'd have been Valley, though mainly because there's wasn't much else to go on!) so seems I was fairly spot on before any of this happened. Would be an interesting game to play if I was mafia.
No all the posters remaining are good playersAnyone else topped themselves yet?
Just kidding Valley, that was the highlight of all the mafia games I've played so far!
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I have no hard evidence on which Lucaaas is all I know is he resisted me last night and he took a shot at me and failed too.
I asked about it.
Ergo... he's gotta go. It's one or the other.
If he is hitman then Astro being arrested means he cannot be investigated but it also means no SK kill maybe
I asked about it.
Ergo... he's gotta go. It's one or the other.
If he is hitman then Astro being arrested means he cannot be investigated but it also means no SK kill maybe
I'd like to hear some other posters views are we're just going in circles here, Gerrez and Astro sticking to their stories and mito and I giving our views.
Astro my strategy is very clear, I don't believe that you really can't understand it, so it's making you look more and more guilty in my eyes. I'll go over it again but this is the last time, it's really not hard to understand. Sorry for the long post but this is in response to Astro and to get my view on things out there for people. I know you won't all read this so I'll bold the important bits, these are not votes.
1. IBWT is SZ and names Astro as SK and Gerrez as Mafia.
2. Why would IBWT do this? Either they are infected and he needs them killed to turn into zombies, or he's trying to stay alive longer by trying to appear useful to town and SK/Mafia are his enemies anyway. In reality it's probably a mixture of the two as we know SK is infected.
3. My gut says he's telling the truth as if he was lying it would be revealed the very next day after one of them was killed. So I believe his intention is definitely to get infected people killed, and as a bonus to try stop people hunting him yet.
4. I've had Gerrez down as potential mafia throughout the game ever since Valley tried to bring Astro into the vote on day 1, so thought Valley could be mafia and either Gerrez or Mikey his Mafia teammate. Once Valley was revealed as Mafia this strengthened this belief big time. Judging by Mikey's voting history and posts vs Gerrez I'm a lot more suspicious of Gerrez than Mikey. This strengthens my view that IBWT is telling the truth as it ties in with my reads so far.
5. I've been suspicious of Astro since day 1. I've explained it before so won't go through the whole lot again but essentially the way you defended yourself so aggressively implied to me that you have an important role, probably a solo role. So could have been either SK or SZ, or a big town role like Hunter or Journo. However I've been leaning towards SK/SZ due to the nature of your posts and how you've defended yourself. I am now nearly convinced you're SK (even without IBWT's post that says you are) due to how you aggressively you reacted to me suggesting you should be locked up. A town role would not be that adamant, essentially you can't be killed by anyone so not a major loss except for one night's actions. However if you are SK then it's a clear reveal as there will be no SK killing, and this is now by far the most likely scenario for me at the moment.
You claim you are the most innocent townie, that's not true at all. Just because Gerrez is probably mafia does not make you innocent, the two are totally unrelated. I believe he brought you into the vote on day 1 to try save Gerrez, he did not know you were SK he just knew you were non-mafia. So being brought into a lynch by a mafia member is not proof that you are innocent, it just means you are not mafia.
Again IBWT's post that you are SK ties in with my reads so I'm inclined to believe it.
6. Astro keeps saying we should lynch Gerrez as the definite mafia, how many times do mito and I need to spell it out to you? As long as IBWT is alive we can't afford to kill as infected person as they become a zombie. As IBWT fingered you two there is a huge possibililty that one or probably both of you have been infected. We can't take this chance, rather hunt IBWT down tonight and let the investigators find out what affiliation Astro and Gerrez have. Based on that we'll kill the guilty guys once IBWT is dead.
7. So again the plan for today is straight forward I think.
Cop locks up Astro and goes zombie hunting for IBWT.
Hunter gets extra bullets and will hopefully kill the thief if they go to the station. Hunter needs all the bullets he can and this is a safe way to do it.
Detective investigates Gerrez to see if he is Mafia.
Virulogist investigates Gerrez to see if he is infected.
If there is no SK kill then we know Astro is SK, either way we'll know Gerrez's affiliation as well tomorrow.
We lynch someone else. I have ideas who I would like to target but we'll cross that bridge later, we need to see if @BobbyD agrees to the plan as he is key to it. We can't afford to let him confiscate the Hunter's rifle.
EDIT: OK so the cop can't lock up and hunt zombies, damn. Maybe hunt zombies and Journo investigate Astro, up to you BobbyD...
Agree with most of what you say but...
why does Astro being locked up and possibly no SK kill mean Astro's not the SK as SK not compelled to kill?
its an issue no question. whats why it ws asked befor ei revealed. In the end its not going to prove astro innocenct but it might prevent a SK so locking him up makes sense if bobby decides
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Just kidding Valley, that was the highlight of all the mafia games I've played so far!
You don't have anyone particular in mind, do you?
I'm inclined to go along with MITO as he has that annoying thing of using logic in his points <cough><IBWT><cough>
Before I vote though I would be interested to see what Lucaas has to say in response..just in case MITO has been bitten.
I think that all makes sense.
Before I vote though I would be interested to see what Lucaas has to say in response..just in case MITO has been bitten.
I think that all makes sense.
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im young and get by on 6 hours sleep a night
Plus I couldn't let gerrez have the last word in case he managed to fool you lot into thinking he wasn't mafia
I was not bitten. There's no compunction on me to do anything if I was and as I've bullets I can hunt and cure myself.
The town has a winning position with lucas hanging out to dry, ibwt getting hunted and hidden investigators who can check out other leads.
I myself have a list of which has got quite a bit shorter of next guys to go at and I think a process of elimination by the town means we cannot really lose.
I've bullets left to fend off an attack in a coin flip if they come at me. The mafia will be struggling to buy another bullet today so it'd be ideal if we do see Lucaas is hitman.
I got really lucky night one with arrest. Town got lucky last night with valley.
I got 5 clear reads on day one and two on people and valley was one and Lucaas was another. After that someone ibwt gave another read last night before the results. I'm going to save the rest til tomorrow as there no way after the last game I'm giving more info to bad guys.
I have taken a risk coming out today. I his yesterday as non role town hoping one of the bad guys would hit me as I would have coin flip to take them out. They did not but choose their own targets.
The town has a winning position with lucas hanging out to dry, ibwt getting hunted and hidden investigators who can check out other leads.
I myself have a list of which has got quite a bit shorter of next guys to go at and I think a process of elimination by the town means we cannot really lose.
I've bullets left to fend off an attack in a coin flip if they come at me. The mafia will be struggling to buy another bullet today so it'd be ideal if we do see Lucaas is hitman.
I got really lucky night one with arrest. Town got lucky last night with valley.
I got 5 clear reads on day one and two on people and valley was one and Lucaas was another. After that someone ibwt gave another read last night before the results. I'm going to save the rest til tomorrow as there no way after the last game I'm giving more info to bad guys.
I have taken a risk coming out today. I his yesterday as non role town hoping one of the bad guys would hit me as I would have coin flip to take them out. They did not but choose their own targets.
Since you know locking me up answers nothing except the possibility to prove I am innocent why not investigate me instead and have an actual answer rather than incomplete information?
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This is simple
lynch Lucas or gerrez
then hunter an kill one of the other
that way you'll kill 2 mafia and they'll be pretty much done
then lock up Astro as SK, he won't be able to kill then and the town will all be in tact.
That way none of the town will die tonight.
I'll then give you any more info that I have and you could pretty much win the game by killing me and the final mafia members tomorrow
lynch Lucas or gerrez
then hunter an kill one of the other
that way you'll kill 2 mafia and they'll be pretty much done
then lock up Astro as SK, he won't be able to kill then and the town will all be in tact.
That way none of the town will die tonight.
I'll then give you any more info that I have and you could pretty much win the game by killing me and the final mafia members tomorrow
Let's say I actually was the SK
Why lock me up? The only thing you know for sure is that I am not SK when the SK kills. So you locked up an innocent. Great.
If you investigate you know everything. Even if I were SK and got 1 more kill in I would be doomed to lose the game.
Why lock me up? The only thing you know for sure is that I am not SK when the SK kills. So you locked up an innocent. Great.
If you investigate you know everything. Even if I were SK and got 1 more kill in I would be doomed to lose the game.
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Mito you so this every game... You claim to have reads on everyone and then once the truth is already known you come out and say yup I knew that.
If if you knew it all every game just tell us all on day 1 and we can get the whole thing sorted in 1 day
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Yea but you'd make it harder for town to win. Locking you up is te best as if they kill you, you'll turn into a zombie.
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