Off Topic Mafia VIII - Mafia vs Zombies

Are you mental? You can't tell I didn't want to be in the lynch last night?

OK so let me spell it out for you; I don't want to be in any lynches. I got the mafia lynched last night. I am a townie.

What is more likely; that my actions in the game so far are those of a SK, or that a known enemy is lying?

 

I am only trying to consider from all angles astro.

if you were locked up your best case is ibwt deis and sk is compelled to kill each night. we need to check the rules. that would clear you but you might still be mafia

 

No logic to say it's actually you. I meant Biscan could logically know who the SK is

 

@BobbyD when you have some time I think its very much time to start talking. you cannot let ibwt drive the agenda here

 

Is he?

 

I was bitten last night

 

i am looking.

 

it doesn't say compelled to kill. @Swarbs any clarification possible?

 

so you are saying out loud do not lynch me.

 

I'm not going to be on today (as explained). People need to read last night's exchanges. I was bitten and dropped hints about this immediately. I'm not Mafia and Biscan as no way of knowing who is Mafia bar the Hitman (because of the bitten Tobes getting hit)

I fully expect to be killed today.

 

Correct. Shoot me, investigate me, lock me up, whatever, but don't lynch me

 

SK is not compelled to kill each night. But given he has to kill everyone else to win, it's a fair bet to say there are few situations in which he won't want to kill.

 

As if I'd bite you... You'd probably try and eat me

#fatbatard

 

Lock Astro up and the SK won't kill...
lynch gerrez and mafia is dead

if you aren't going to lynch gerrez, who are you going to lynch? A possible townie... A possible townie with a role?

then you lot will be screwed

im trying to help town here, I can't win but out of the 3 remaining teams I don't want mafia to win as they killed my lil infected Tobes, and don't want Astro to win as he killed me.

 

Morning all. I haven't got time to go through all this. Am I still alive and what happened last night?

 

Hi all, sorry bout last night i fell asleep.

As for turn of events first to @tennis. I cant lock up and kill zombies. 1 or the other.

Lots of info out there. My detective has told me that ibwt is a townie and innocent.

Obviously this is not true. Ibwt is a zombie. Shamemy detective cant tell the difference.

First things first ibwt thanks for the names i will check on them but unfortunately as only a couple of roles can kill you. I'm inclined to have to get you killed tonight. Not sure what my plan of action is tonight but i would like the hunter to go out to kill ibwt. Still dont know why you would have additional info though. Considering who you are you nearly pulled it off with blackmailing us with info

This astro / gerrez thing. Is it a bluff by ibwt? I think so. If what he says is true we must get the sk first which is astro. Astro has been fairly helpful in my eyes so either i lock him up to prove it or my detective investigates him.

At gerrez i think hes a townie. He didnt try to switch votes in the first round when he could easily have died and his explanation of vote switching sits well with me.

Who do you think we put up for lynch tonight. If ibwt says is true we dont want to lynch either astro or gerrez tonight.

Astro who else do you think is the mafia? You reckon gerrez is one?

Gerrez if you are not the mafia as you say. Who do you suspect is mafia?

Mito who do you think we should go for tonight as you are the only 100% trustworthy innocent in my eyes.

Do you think its worth revealing the 3 freemasons so we have a better idea of whats going on tonight?

 

Well that's not fair.



That's Obi's job.

 

I'd like to hear some other posters views are we're just going in circles here, Gerrez and Astro sticking to their stories and mito and I giving our views.

Astro my strategy is very clear, I don't believe that you really can't understand it, so it's making you look more and more guilty in my eyes. I'll go over it again but this is the last time, it's really not hard to understand. Sorry for the long post but this is in response to Astro and to get my view on things out there for people. I know you won't all read this so I'll bold the important bits, these are not votes.

1. IBWT is SZ and names Astro as SK and Gerrez as Mafia.

2. Why would IBWT do this? Either they are infected and he needs them killed to turn into zombies, or he's trying to stay alive longer by trying to appear useful to town and SK/Mafia are his enemies anyway. In reality it's probably a mixture of the two as we know SK is infected.

3. My gut says he's telling the truth as if he was lying it would be revealed the very next day after one of them was killed. So I believe his intention is definitely to get infected people killed, and as a bonus to try stop people hunting him yet.

4. I've had Gerrez down as potential mafia throughout the game ever since Valley tried to bring Astro into the vote on day 1, so thought Valley could be mafia and either Gerrez or Mikey his Mafia teammate. Once Valley was revealed as Mafia this strengthened this belief big time. Judging by Mikey's voting history and posts vs Gerrez I'm a lot more suspicious of Gerrez than Mikey. This strengthens my view that IBWT is telling the truth as it ties in with my reads so far.

5. I've been suspicious of Astro since day 1. I've explained it before so won't go through the whole lot again but essentially the way you defended yourself so aggressively implied to me that you have an important role, probably a solo role. So could have been either SK or SZ, or a big town role like Hunter or Journo. However I've been leaning towards SK/SZ due to the nature of your posts and how you've defended yourself. I am now nearly convinced you're SK (even without IBWT's post that says you are) due to how you aggressively you reacted to me suggesting you should be locked up. A town role would not be that adamant, essentially you can't be killed by anyone so not a major loss except for one night's actions. However if you are SK then it's a clear reveal as there will be no SK killing, and this is now by far the most likely scenario for me at the moment.
You claim you are the most innocent townie, that's not true at all. Just because Gerrez is probably mafia does not make you innocent, the two are totally unrelated. I believe he brought you into the vote on day 1 to try save Gerrez, he did not know you were SK he just knew you were non-mafia. So being brought into a lynch by a mafia member is not proof that you are innocent, it just means you are not mafia.
Again IBWT's post that you are SK ties in with my reads so I'm inclined to believe it.

6. Astro keeps saying we should lynch Gerrez as the definite mafia, how many times do mito and I need to spell it out to you? As long as IBWT is alive we can't afford to kill as infected person as they become a zombie. As IBWT fingered you two there is a huge possibililty that one or probably both of you have been infected. We can't take this chance, rather hunt IBWT down tonight and let the investigators find out what affiliation Astro and Gerrez have. Based on that we'll kill the guilty guys once IBWT is dead.

7. So again the plan for today is straight forward I think.
Cop locks up Astro and goes zombie hunting for IBWT.
Hunter gets extra bullets and will hopefully kill the thief if they go to the station. Hunter needs all the bullets he can and this is a safe way to do it.
Detective investigates Gerrez to see if he is Mafia.
Virulogist investigates Gerrez to see if he is infected.
If there is no SK kill then we know Astro is SK, either way we'll know Gerrez's affiliation as well tomorrow.

We lynch someone else. I have ideas who I would like to target but we'll cross that bridge later, we need to see if @BobbyD agrees to the plan as he is key to it. We can't afford to let him confiscate the Hunter's rifle.

EDIT: OK so the cop can't lock up and hunt zombies, damn. Maybe hunt zombies and Journo investigate Astro, up to you BobbyD...

 

I have a clear idea of what to do. yes.

I have a plan in my head right now. Do you really 100% trust me or do you think i might be bitten. thats all i can be unless innocent. I've gone right after ibwt so that doesn't support me being bitten.

 

Just to clarify, as per Bobby's post:

1. The cop can either lock up or go zombie hunting. They can't do both on one night.

2. If the cop locks someone up then they have to remain with them in the police station all night. Which means anyone robbing the police station is at risk