Off Topic Mafia VIII - Mafia vs Zombies

yes but so also tobes is dead so he is gone.

so right now theres two infecteds out there that will revert when he is killed. if we don't kill him and take his bargain we might lynch the ones he wants us to and then find more roaming zombies

but please IBWT reveal what you know.

 

Gerrez is mafia

Astro is SK


Believe me, don't believe me, up to you.

Interesting to see who tries to defend Gerrez from now on though

 

If you don't think Gerrez is mafia.. go back to day 1 votes

 

And I know Astro is SK as when he shot me I bit him

Lynch Astro he becomes a zombie, so mafia, over to you to kill him if you want as that's only way he won't become a zombie.

 

Ok, this leaves us a dilemma.

There is one zombie. We know there are three mafia.

There could be two infected players too.

The SK is infected and will become a zombie if killed.

There is nothing to say that the other infected person is not mafia as opposed to town.

If we kill the infected ones before we kill Biscan then we create more zombies who can infect others.

If we kill biscan then the zombies cannot grow as the others would go back to their original roles - but this sets free the SK and possible one mafia or one town. We also lose the option for the army to possibly identify the Sk by finding the infected one - though if there are two this becomes 50/50. If we leave biscan to keep creating zombies these odds drop.

We need to think about which option is best in the long run - or which one has the least bad consequences.

My own view is that once we have another unknown zombie who can infect then the zombies hold the upper hand. For this reason I'd be in favour of killing Biscan before he does more damage. The problem is that would then help the SK and (potentially) mafia just as much as town, if not more.

 

so we need to go back now to the vote earlier today

at 3pm

RHC: 1 vote by Neville
Valley: 4 votes Astro, Obi, tobes, tennis
Astro: 4 vote by gerrez, funky, RHC, valley
Gerrez: 1 vote by mikey
yet to vote: IBWT, MITO, Lucaaas, Sebb, Bobby, Nolberto


what does it tell us?

Valley had 4 votes on him. tobes was under IBWT control for vote. I didn;t see anything from tobes to suggest he was trying to get in a lynch so i think the zombies really had very bad luck today.

Gerrez lead the counter vote on astro. funky and RHc followed. valley cam on last of all...... is one of these mafia? there is a chance

There are two single votes, are they spread out mafia votes?

could one mafia be ballsy enough to have voted Valley? I think so.

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in short the simpler answer is someone there on astro is mafia aside from valley but do not rule the others out.

gerrez put the vote in and let them on.
funky fought with both but mainly astro.

It would be astounding play by astro to be mafia here and putting it on all day with valley.

where did the third option come from? not astro i think.

Lets see what this info means as the days go on.. please all book mark this vote.

I think theres a mafia on valley and a mafia on astro aside from valley.

 

Ok, bed time for me, good luck sorting all this out night owls

 

i think you shoudl think on.

what advantage does it give IBWT.

gerrez is mafia. I can beleive it as he's on my radar. a coupe reasons but he dropped lower as he did unvote in trying to balance so I left him off my top 3

what kind of mafia is he then IBWT? is he the hitman?

 

No idea... don't have that info.
Only that he's mafia

I also fell for the whole "he could have saved himself but didn't" but think about it... he's been in that position before and he's never saved himself so to do it when mafia would have been way too obvious so he had no choice.

 

Are we agreed that the killers should target Biscan tomorrow? He is a known threat and anyone else has an element of guesswork unless the detetive wants to come forward with a result (which I think would be a mistake while we have a known threat).

 

Okay, clear bullshitting going on from Biscan here. I'm not Mafia. Again, I'll refer to the first night voting, if I were Mafia, why would I have not saved myself in the mix up? Instead I risked my own life

Fair enough with that explanation.

Why/how would you know I am Mafia (which I'm not)... ?

As far as I am aware, there as been no failed kill from the Mafia, they've killed each night so can't be that.

The recruit was reported as successful too so that didn't fail, or are you saying you was recruited? I didn't think this was possible ???

The first night saw the theif get 10k...? No report second day because Valley (the theif) killed himself.

And i don't think the SZ can investigate?

How do you "know" who the Mafia are...?

Or is it just opinion...?

 

110% he should be taken out. he's now made his play and gave us two names. there is no reason in the wide earthly why he should not be killed off if we can as if we let him bite it helps his team.

infected players lynched = ormaing zombies = chance to bite. It can trun ugly

theres one tonight. lynch his targets and then its a case that one coudl trun = 2 zombies. each 50% chance to bit.. could be 2 more infected next night.

nip it in the bud ASAP town.

 

Find me a rule that it says I can't

 

Definitely but then, of obviously day that with him trying to frame me

 

I thought you were innocent MITO, but if you think I should die now then I'm doubting that...

I can't win, even if I caryr on infecting people (will take me 2 more days to get 1 person with a 50% bite rate) and by then the mafia would have taken out more than enough town to win.

Town need me

 

I say we lynch Biscan before he can infect (not sure of the order).

Even if the infected ones are SK (known) and mafia (possible) they are no longer under his influence so they are no less harmful infected as not.

 

Agreed, it would very silly to give two names put so soon when in such a powerful yet equally threatening position. Ask yourself why he's given those names so early?

 

Oh, and who killed Tobes?

Mafia...

And who was Tobes working for?

Me...

Now add it all together and what are the chances I know who 1 or all of the mafia are

 

@BobbyD i think you should go hunting a zombie tonight (day 3), and the hunter should get bullets from the police station. Reasoning below:
Mafia are desperate for bullets, they've used up both of theirs. They are very likely to risk robbing the station tonight.
You are probably thinking along those lines so are planning to stay behind, as you have a 50% chance of killing the thief.
However if hunter gets bullets they also have 50% chance of killing the thief, so same chance of killing but added bonus of you hunting zombie and hunter getting bullets.
So:
A) you hunt zombie, have 50% chance of killing him.
Hunter gets 2 extra bullets
If thief appears there is a 50% chance he gets killed, might even be higher as its the recruit thief.
B) you stay at station, 0% chance of killing zombie.
Hunter gets no bullets.
If thief appears there is a 50% chance he gets killed, might even be higher as its the recruit thief.
Its a no brainer (no offence zombies!)

If you kill ibwt then other infected become normal again, then we just have to hunt mafia & SK in our lynches, no more worrying about zombies We can test ibwt's info out in the lynch, one lynch result will tell us if he was lying or not.

 

You can't lynch me.. I'm dead