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  1. Tobes

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    What, there's no evidence that lesbians actually exist?

    So you're suggesting that the fact that they marry women and discount men, is down to what exactly?
     
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  2. Bodinki

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    Choice?
    The fact that female sexuality is not as programmed as male sexuality?

    How man straight women can sit there watching lesbian porn, and not bat an eye lid, some may even enjoy it.
    How many straight men could sit through a gay porn? Most men you asked, even the liberals, it provides no joy whatsoever and for a lot it turns their stomachs.

    And how do you account for the fact that over 80% of "Lesbians" still have had sexual encounters with men in their adult life?
    Compared to 17% of gay men having sex with women?

    You still trying to tell me that women and men are equally bound by their choice of sexuality?
     
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  3. Tobes

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    This is hilarious

    You responded to Treble with this;

    Treble, please tell me you are not insinuating that male homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, because.....if you are....mate thats pretty ****ing horrific in this day and age if someone thinks that.

    And now a page later your seemingly saying exactly what you accused Treble of saying but relating to lesbians.

    Hot on the heels after declaring that hormone imbalance exists in gay men, and that they supposedly have lower testosterone levels (which would make the 'cure' testosterone injections btw) but is also a pile of steaming ****e, as that's not a fact at all. As testosterone levels in gay men varies across the same wide spectrum that it does in straight men.
     
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  4. Bodinki

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    Read my quote again Tobes.

    MALE...MALE homosexuality, I said.
     
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  5. Bodinki

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    Look, I don't wanna talk about this **** on here any more.
    It's a bad ****ing idea.

    Please bring the football season back.
     
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  6. Tobes

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    How many have you asked?

    Social conditioning would stop men admitting to the second question btw.

    I've no idea where you got the 80% of lesbians have had sex with men stats from, but what ****ing relevance is it to the fact that having tried it they don't fancy men and are attracted to women and then live the rest of their lives as lesbians?

    I've said from the off sexuality is a spectrum, it was you who wanted to pigeon hole people, and decry that you understand what makes them gay. Do you know many gay men or women for that matter btw?
     
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  7. Bodinki

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    Lots of gay men (10+ maybe), two of my cousins, my brother in law and his partner, a friend of the family and his partner, and one of my wifes best mates to name a few. Plus one of my cousins (a "lesbian") manages a LBGT bar.
    Tons of Bi sexual women though only maybe 2 lesbians I think.....
     
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    Just to please Tobes :p
     
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  9. Tobes

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    Have you shared your views on what makes them tick then mate?

    "Ay love, you're only licking carpet through choice, you must have had a few crap shags, I'll straighten you out darlin'"


    <laugh>
     
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  10. Red Hadron Collider

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    I can't actually believe this ****er hasn't sunken without trace <yikes>
     
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  11. johnsonsbaby

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    Nobody is born gay or straight. There is no biological evidence to support that idea. To say it is a choice is wrong as well. Homosexuality is far more complex than saying you're born that way or it's a choice. This book is often cited as being an excellent read in exploring the myths and pointing out the flaws in research on sexual orientation - Brain Storm: The Flaws in the Science of Sex Differences by Rebecca Jordan-Young.
     
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  12. Germlands Nozzer

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    I must admit that this is one area in which I really don't trust any research done, simply because the topic is so political and there is huge pressure on both sides of the argument to come up with support or discreditation that suits their purposes.
     
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  13. johnsonsbaby

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    Science doesn't have a 'side' though. Scientists are not political or agenda based on this, providing you're looking at the top neuro scientists, developmental biologists etc. who are conducting meaningful research to add to the community of research and not seeking to prove [or dis-prove] anything.
     
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    Science doesn't but individuals do. There probably (hopefully) are impartial scientists working in the field. But can you guarantee that the person who wrote the study you're reading right now is one of them? Obviously that's the case for a lot of issues, but this is a field where a lot of quack science is funded by both sides to help further their points.
     
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    I don't think too many individuals have access to cadavers and/or university labs. I agree that a poll in Now magazine doesn't count as definitive research that men are more promiscuous than women for example. I'm not aware of a Gay Society of Developmental Biologists .... or the Homophobic Neuroscience Dept. at Oxford/Cambridge/Harvard universities <whistle>
     
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  16. Bodinki

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    Well she is a "lesbian" yet has a child <laugh> and has shagged half the male population of Milton Keynes
    I will let you work it out
     
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    <laugh> No, but it can be more subtle than that!
     
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    The Spartans when of age and joinging the army, were assigned to a soldier in the army, and they ****ed each other for the time there.

    Often when it came time to sleep with a woman, they shaved the woman's head, and he banged her from hehind, for obvious reasons, sex with men is all these young men ever knew.

    I think it is entirely possible to raise someone to be homosexual but it requires the removes of women from their lives totally prior to puberty, the human brain is programmable to a high degree. This is what Russian laws are all about actually, not promoting it, yes it is a belief belonging in the stone age but essentially that's what those laws are abou. These views are extremely common in the US too

    I believe people are born gay too
     
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    <laugh>

    I can't see what would be in it for world renowned scientists to want to take a side.
     
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  20. Treble

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    Sorry Bodanki for being in a foul mood earlier. Ar5sholes at work just pi55ed me off crying over spilt milk. My apologies mate. On your post, I wasnt meaning to suggest that at all. AFC said that putting down gay ppl was not the same as putting down religious ppl bcos they choose to be religious wheras gays don't choose their sexuality. I was only saying that he made it sound like being gay was an affliction (something forced upon someone like being disabled) which it isnt, and therefore to think like that is also offensive to homosexuals surely?

    In short imo whether you put down someone who's lifestyle is through choice or genetics, it's still equally uncalled for. <ok>
     
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