nozzer thanks. I could not find that info. was it on the pro license listings for england or was it on his page? This means to me you've a guy who is experienced and is qualified being hired. at the very minimum we need to drop the high horses and egos about our level as we are nowhere near a big club like we want to be. we are very rich comparatively but for me we've not won a major cup since 2006.. 9 years ago. one league cup since which is ok but its still the third comp. We have finished 2nd twice in 9 years and 7th, 8th, 7th, 6th in recent years Rodgers has picked his man. end of. I wish the club had a proper organisational structure we could all see and who fits where but we don't. no amount of whining will change it. Why not go email the supporters committee and ask them to ask ayre for it. I wish rodgers had trophies to his name like jurgen klopp. he doesn't so either it goes tits up or it stays the way it is or we improve. if the former 2 some decision must be made.
oh and a pro license is much more than mr pascoe had. and nothing perosnal to him he was rodgers buddy.
Part of getting to the next level is aspiring to get to the next level. We're not showing that aspiration with some of the choices we're making. I never whinge on here but as a fan I feel let down by my club's aspirations. Hire the best they'll drag you up with them, hire the mediocre, they don't know what achievement feels like so you've less chance it happening. In my humble opinion.
very sensible way of looking at it too. the one thing i'll say back to you is since fsg took over (barring rodgers intial team) every coach hired has had top qualifications. the youth set up is riddled with them. now that says to me somewhere we are trying to get better quality and standards going. I'd love carlo anchelotti to turn up but he's off minding himself. so we have what we have.
it was the wiki with the full list of pro licencees from england. I should have thought to go to that as i used it before to look for info on our other coaches
I understand the qualifications argument but how many taking the courses fail? None, most likely, that's how it seems to work. That means the brightest, strongest, best candidates and the poorest, mediocre candidates all come out with the same piece of paper but will be hugely different in terms of actual capabilities when put to the test. Who qualified with Mourinho for example and what are they doing now?
Few of Brendan Rodgers’ players will have come across new Liverpool assistant boss Sean O’Driscoll before. The wealth of coaching experience O’Driscoll has collected over the past two decades has been in the lower divisions and away from the glare of the Premier League. He has no European pedigree and his last management job was a doomed spell at Bristol City. But when the Reds reconvene at Melwood next week they will soon discover why Rodgers pinpointed the 57-year-old from the Midlands as the ideal replacement for Colin Pascoe. O’Driscoll maybe 15 years Rodgers’ senior but they see the game the same way. They are both committed to playing a bold, expansive style of play and building from the back. They don’t just want players to know what to do in certain situations but why they do it. “Sometimes you just need players to be brave and, as easy as it sounds to the man in the stands, having the b******s to take a risk on a football pitch is one of the hardest things you can ask them to do,” O’Driscoll said back in 2013. “Playing safe maybe the easy option as it stops the onus being on them if they make a mistake but how many ‘safe’ teams have won trophies over the years? “The way Spain and Barcelona play requires bravery, the way Bayern Munich play requires bravery, the way Swansea and Bournemouth play requires bravery, it’s just a different kind of bravery to what we typically view as bravery in this country.” By his own admission, during his playing days O’Driscoll used to drive then Bournemouth boss Harry Redknapp mad with a succession of questions. He likes his players to be curious. “I don’t know what players know, I’m gobsmacked at times by what they don’t know,” he said during his reign at Doncaster Rovers which saw him lead the club into the Championship and to their highest finish for half a century. “They’re never asked to think. We breed players from eight years old who never ask ‘why are we doing this?’ or ‘how does this work?’ — thinking players, who evolve. “All our coaching philosophies here are about understanding your responsibilities. Some players fly with it, some find it difficult. We want them to be the decision-makers, we want them to understand their role in the team. “Football intelligence is worryingly rare in this country and that stems from the coaching players have had at the youngest age where they are just told what to do, and don’t have to make decisions for themselves. “Football intelligence only comes from a player understanding the game that is actually going on around him, not the game he wants to play in his head.” O’Driscoll has long since been an admirer of top sports psychologist Dr Steve Peters, who works for the Reds, while he has no time for the short-termism of those in modern football who demand instant results over a coherent strategy designed to bring sustained success, “Psychology is still sneered at in this country, and seen as a weakness or an emotional crutch, but all the top Olympic sports swear by mental training,” he said. “The work Dr Steve Peters has done with British Cycling has been universally applauded yet in football any intervention like that is still greeted with cynicism. “Football rhetoric gets up my nose. People say ‘I don’t care how we do it, I just want to win’. That’s fine, I’ll take 46 games winning 1-0 and playing crap but tell me how you do it. “We want to play well and I’d rather we win but if we’re going to lose I’d rather we play well doing it. “We (Doncaster) were in League One trying to do the things that we wanted to do. But people told us we shouldn’t be doing this or that and you’ll never get out of this division playing football and you’ve got to bang the ball forward instead.” Early success Wolverhampton-born O’Driscoll was a midfielder who joined Fulham in 1979. After five years at Craven Cottage, he moved on to Bournemouth and broke a club record as he clocked up 423 league appearances over the following decade. He also won three caps for the Republic of Ireland. O’Driscoll joined the Cherries’ coaching staff in 1995 and in August 2000 he was appointed manager. He worked wonders on a limited budget and won promotion to League One via the play-offs in 2002/03. In September 2006 - after 22 years at Dean Court - he was lured north by Doncaster. In his first season they lifted the Football League Trophy at the Millennium Stadium and the following campaign they beat Leeds in the League One play-off final at Wembley. Despite not being able to compete financially with most of their rivals, O’Driscoll’s reputation blossomed as he successfully kept Doncaster in the second tier of English football over the following three seasons playing an eye-catching brand of football. He was given permission to hold talks with Burnley in 2010 but with the two clubs unable to agree a compensation package he stayed put. A torrid start to the 2011/12 season - with just one point from seven matches - led to his dismissal by Doncaster in September. But he wasn’t out of work for long. After helping out at Plymouth Argyle in an advisory role, he joined Steve Cotterill’s staff at Nottingham Forest as first-team coach. They pair had previously played together at Bournemouth. Recent struggles In the summer of 2012 he left Forest after being appointed boss of Crawley but before the season started he quit and returned to the City Ground as manager with Cotterill sacked following the Kuwaiti takeover. O’Driscoll’s spell in charge of Forest proved shortlived and just five months later he was shown the door. His final game was a 4-2 win over Leeds which meant he had collected 36 points from 24 games. The owners decided they wanted Alex McLeish instead, Forest chairman Fawaz Al Hasawi said: “We cannot speak highly enough of Sean as a man. He was appointed at an extremely difficult time for the club and can count himself unlucky to have lost his job with the team just one point away from the top six. “But we have a responsibility to look to the future for this great club because we have huge ambitions for it.” Within weeks he was back in football after taking over from Derek McInnes at Bristol City, who were bottom of the Championship. He wasn’t able to keep them up and the following season they struggled again in League One. In late November, with Bristol City 22nd in League One, he was sacked again. He had won just seven of his 38 league games in charge. Last summer O’Driscoll was approached by the FA to take over as England’s new under-19s coach. Gareth Southgate, England Under-21s boss, was instrumental in his appointment. Southgate said: “Sean is somebody whose values and philosophy match what we are trying to embed. He’s got great experience in youth development and in the senior game. His teams have always reflected a style of play which is something we would like to implement and he’s a developer of players.” In O’Driscoll’s solitary season with the FA his youngsters narrowly missed out on qualifying for the Under-19 European Championship finals after failing to progress from March’s elite qualifying round in France. Liverpool new boy Joe Gomez, who completed a £3.5million move from Charlton, was part of O’Driscoll’s squad. Now the teenager will be seeing plenty more of his international boss.
I have a mate who's a massive BCFC supporter and rates Sean very, very highly. Seems to be well respected amongst his peers too, and if I remember rightly Rodgers himself spoke very highly about him a year or two ago. I think more often than not with number two's, you need them to be able to work in tangent with the head coach.. Especially in the case of BR, a big ego wouldn't do the club any good, instead FSG have opted for a well respected manager who never really got his break. Read in to his managerial career as you like, it may of been down to not being good enough or the opportunity to manage a bigger club just never came about, I guess in time we'll see. From what I've read, he certainly speaks well and demonstrates a good understanding of the game, whether that translates in to our side - time will tell.
Ok, so he's well respected and similar to Brod so should work well as a bouncing board for ideas and improvements...but he's another 'playing the right way' being bold and attacking type man. Our biggest question still remains; who the **** is going to sort our defense out?
Tbf a LOT fail the coaching awards. The pass rate used to be as low as 2%. That said a number of years back i had my UEFA B licence - so scrap what i just said
By the time you get to the point of dissing a European wide coaching structure and qualification that costs 1000s to get and 18months work including placement at clubs to learn a wee but I think you'd just be better off admitting the truth. You wanted someone else defined by a name and this guy just will not do.
With Lijnders and SOD, we have coaches who are aligned in playing the same way - possession based and building from the attack. I think with these appointments, Rodgers is going back to basics and going back to his philosophy which we saw at Swansea and his first season at Liverpool. If this happens - then I support the decision because it's time Rodgers now stuck to a system and style and makes it works, without dumping it when things go wrong. I'm sure we all agree that 13/14 was very exciting but it's simply not sustainable to go all out attack, especially without a world class striker like Suarez. So I rather Rodgers goes back to his roots and makes that style work. The best managers are versatile by tweaking their systems - Rodgers seems to completely change it. He needs to learn how to improve his system when things goes wrong, not completely ditch it. Still concerned that defence will be neglected though.
