Off Topic Mafia VIII - Mafia vs Zombies

I'm happy with the one vote each.

 

5/17 - no point putting Bobby in the mix

only issue is, it's really hard to coordinate and easy to manipulate the outcome

 

if we do that then that:

a) eliminates the mason's ability to choose who dies
b) eliminates any problem the mafia have in casting thier votes as they will simply follow the list
c) it gives a 1/18 chance to anyone to die. ergo not much pressure

in short 5/18 will be bad and have a coinflip. = 27% chance.. or in other words a 73% chance we will hit a town.

I think discussion and looking for people to talk is the best thing for it. we know some and on later, we know some say they won't be on later.

 

But if you manipulate the outcome we get information

Even if you are too incompetent to follow the strategy and get accused but are innocent it's no big loss

 

Yeah I'm not a huge fan of it, it's a bit more boring but just wondered if it was better odds or not.

Dont think much in it to be honest and which 17 people needed to take part, coordinating would be hard and easy for someone to come in last minute, vote and ruin the whole thing

 

I agree, nobody will argue against it. as you say the odds will be pro mafia.

My own view is day one is hard and the set up indicates 5 bad guys, 7 vanillas and therefore 7 town roles. we've a better change of hitting a town role than a bad guy randomly.

the same goes for all kills, recruits etc etc.

The best thing is for everyone to be talking and making it hard to hid.. but obviously not big long diatribes.

 

there are 19 players. 18 is the number without bobby who is not considered.

 

FFS I don't want to get into this all again but you need to understand that day one the odds are always that an innocent will be lynched the point is to get the best odds we can and negate the mafia advantage of information

 

Anyone ruining it the last minute signs their own death warrant and is either guilty (good for us they die) or a moron (good for us they die)

 

You all need to start placing some votes

 

that is true.

the odds will be on all the bad guy's side so if they do try and break it its bad for them but in the end... it will be totally random draw by swarbs.

the big issue then is nobody has to defend themselves either. most of the time we hafl know if someone is innocent but i suppose nobody has the balls to change bar a few anyway so ones as good as other.

 

No one can ever defend themselves well because there is literally nothing you can say to prove yourself

Plus people always want to see a conspiracy and always favour twisting what people say as evidence of guilt

So it gets you nowhere short term, you need to find long term patterns and actual information from investigations

 

Well I'm glad we're disguising this early in the day rather than leaving it late. What ever we do carries risk, Only picking a few does raise the chance that there'll be a 0% chance of hitting a bad guy. It's all damage limitation, just a case of everyone agreeing on the least damaging.

 

that is true. i am not a big fan as i think mafia can sneak in and out as can others. nobody wants to die day one so everyone bar afc will be skirting by.

Am i right that day one is the only day this time that we know 100% the lynchee dies end of.. no zombie roaming.

 

Don't agree, if we all vote for ourselves then it's simple. If someone goes against the plan then they're dead meat.

What could be easier?

 

well that is an interesting twist. anyone worried only needs be on to change their vote off themsevles to even it up.

 

mafia would be mad to just remove all their votes but they could. its be patently obvious why they did it though.

 

What if people don't vote at all and therefor rule themselves out of it?

could claim to only be back and caught the end of it etc.. Like I say it would give us a complete random choice but would need everyone to be involved and just can't see it happening

 

The strategy suits me. I didn't want to not vote for No Chance and this makes me look like a good guy, not that I'm not.

Haven't had time to digest never mind understand all the rules and implications yet and most likely never will!!!!

Also expecting the daunting task of at some stage late tonight or tomorrow morning trying to read the 50 pages this game will have moved on by then.

 

Easy.

Tag anyone in who hasn't appeared by say 7.30 to esnure that they know the plan. If they've not piped up by say 8.45, we can change our tactic to switch our votes to put all of the abstainers up, as they're **** all value to the game anyway in reality.