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  1. Bodinki

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    Twitter and facebook, never have I seen two tools, that could be used for so much good, abused and turned into something ****tarded, by idiots.
     
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    Thats not true. It's up to the prosecution to prove beyond reasonable doubt that no consent was given, not the other way.

    Innocent until proven guiilty.

    Not or that this has anything to do with pay gap...
     
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    of course anyone doing the same job to the same quality and quantity should be paid the same, I actually also believe maternal leave should not be deducted from time served cos we need to reproduce after all.

    I am comfortable saying what I say because I am 100% certain I am not misogynistic, that's why I couldn't give a **** if a woman calls me that because I choose to point out descrepancies with their feminist bullshit.
     
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    For the record, I wasn't serious when I said you were.
    Even if you do have some bizarre beliefs on 9/11 and Climate change.
    I still question why you seemed pissed that women can withdraw consent during sex?
    If I was ****ing a woman, and she slipped a dildo up my ass during the act, my consent would be withdrawn pretty damn quick.
     
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  5. InBiscanWeTrust

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    Who uses page 3 to knock one out? Haven't people heard of the ****ing Internet <doh>
     
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    You don't know who I am talking about because you have no interest in the subject.

    The groups out there are currently sanitising video games movies and everything else in the social space. People like anita sarkeesian who have massive audiences. Turning a generation of women into self perpetuating victims and it's actually causing a gender divide.

    Look at what they did to Mad Max! The director was pressured into consulting the writer of the vagina monologues before making the movie, and it was turned into a one armed girl killing lots of generic males, bit like kill bill, yet these same people like anita sarkeesian are getting games like GTA sanitised because there is violence towards women in the games, apparently the violence towards men which is far more common in games, is fine.<laugh>
     
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    But it isn't. Where's the proof that is an actual reality?

    Women are empowered in modern society, as they no longer have to act like men in order to get on. They can have fantastic careers by just being great at what they do, as opposed to having to over compensate and be some sort of ball breaker.

    Of course there's those who still hold feminist views that are no longer relevant in our mature society in the mainstream, however, there are also still plenty of sexist idiots out there who have issues with women in positions of power, probably due to their own insecurities, but they still exist.

    You're fixating on the extremes, rather than looking at the starting point of your thread and seeing a positive i.e. the gender pay gap is a thing of the past in the younger generation, you appear to see it as a threat, and part of the march of 'femtards'
     
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    Sounds like a good name for a film - "The March of the Femtards" - or a south park episode <laugh>
     
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    Yiou see this is the problem. There is, you have no idea mate. How do you think the woman gets everything in a divorce? How do you think they get all the right to the kids? How do you think that when a house gets split in a divorce the man gets the outside and the woman gets the inside.

    There are no fathers right in the UK or Ireland or US.
    I think you are vastly underesimating the actual depth this goes to, how it has proliferated society.

    Do you have any idea how many men kill themselves after divorce like, it's prety ****ing alarming.

    Just cos you and I don't see it in our faces doesn't mean this is not happening, it is just more pronounced in other countries but is fast becomming an issue in our part of the world.

    Ched Evans is a prime example of this problem. That chick even boasted about what she would do with the money ffs, and if anyone publicly called her a bit of a slut the outrage would be huge plus that person would get fired from their job especially if it was a high profile position.

    Listen to Emily Watson whinging at the UN about her parents "calling her bossy" ffs. She moans about being objectified then goes and poses for raunchy calendars.

    In this life I have lived I have seen women treated equally and some not because some men are pieces of ****. Some women are pieces of **** but we are not allowed to call it like we see it with women.

    Take Arnie muscles shagging his maid. piece of **** move no doubt. But the maid was never called a whore, she knew his wife and kids, and she ****ed him. Arnie is a piece of **** according to all and sundry but not once was the maid called what she was a gold digging whore. Same with Clinton and yer one Monica Lewisnki, unsure how her name is spelt, no one alled her a whore for sucking dick in the white house, and she knew his wife. That is how this ******ed movement has affected society, where the woman is blameless, she's a victim.

    Mostly this crap is sweeping Ameica and Canada, third wave feminism is militant and a social experiment, it encompasses everything from movies to social media to video games. Essentially they want to invade and destroy every male space and "make it comfortable for women".
    Why not develop their own video games if they don't like male centric ones?

    You say I have as usual no idea, when I've done nothing this week but look into this, and you'd just popped your head in to share your expertise without one shred of research done. <ok> This is why we often fall out, though I can't be bothered with that cack any more mate.
     
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    Good point RE Fathers Rights <ok>
     
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    Which are non existant mate. we have none.

    In Ireland a court judge, a woman, and a psychologist, a woman, decided that a caring father should not get custody of his kid and his ex wife, who died, her boyfriend should get the kid. The dad even coached a football team his kid plays on, he was not a dead beat by any margin.

    The court went with the wihses of the dead mother and gave custody of the kid to her ****ing boyfriend instead of the kid's dad. What the kid wanted, a boy, was neither here nor there. This is how it has infected society.

    But no one gives a **** about men's rights it seems. Femtard movements have too much power.
    any situation where a woman acts less than sensible is the man's fault. Like with Ched Evans, girl goes slutting around footballers groupy style, lets two of them **** her, claims she remembers nothing, and yet someone is called a rapist. Life ruined.
     
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    <doh> FFS

    Care to point out where I said you had no idea?

    As I think I've managed the converse..........
     
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  13. If you were having some building work done, would you get several quotes before employing the cheapest company but insist on paying them more than they quoted?

    Employee and Employers enter a contractual agreement, what other agreements are in place is irrelevant. If you do a good job then you are entitled to look at renegotiating that agreement or moving on to better things.

    The world is full of greedy ****ers who think the grass is always greener and constantly worry about what others are doing rather than living their own life.
     
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    Even on Sky news, the presenter is siding with the feminist in the face of cold hard facts, this is part of how this cack is perpetuated.
    They dismiss the girl with the facts and use emotion and shaming to back their argument and a lot of rubbish to boot.
    The presneted even drags out a false statistic. Cos we know women between 22 and 39 earn more than men.
    This is what is going out to young women over the media along with the endless articles about men, written by women ironically

    This is one of many perfect examples. There is no doubting the power of media



    The title says it all, "EMPLOYERS SHOULD BE SHAMED" I rest my case. Shaming is an emotional illogical tactic
     
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    The issue of divorce, I will concede that in the past women got the lions share, this is a problem, fathers right too.
    The times they are a changing though, my brother recently went through a divorce and got joint custody of my niece and managed to keep half his house.

    the stuff about women not being called sluts I dont really get.
    Mostly they werent shamed as much because the Arnie's nanny, Ched's rape victim, and Monica Lewinsky werent celebreties, so the media don't give a **** about them, they will focus on Arnie, Ched and Clinton, who are public faces. And yes, I do feel that the responsibily lie with the men, in the Arnie and Clinton cases especially, since THEY were the ones who were married. The women aren't blameless, but they are not the ones who cheated on their spouses. And even if a woman who IS married sleeps with a celebrity, go back to my first point, no one cares because SHE is not the celebrity.

    Women who cheat DO get stick, Kelly Brook and Kristen Stewart were ripped into by the British papers when their cheating was exposed.
    I will probably say that the outpouring of condolences for the cuckolded men (Jason Statham and Robert Pattinson) weren't as bad, maybe because they are blokes and were expected to take it on the chin.
    Infact, in both cases, the guys Brook and Stewart slept with (Billy Zane and Rupert Sanders) were barely touched by the media, despite BOTH men also being celebrities (though admittedly lower profile than the females who they porked).
     
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    Thats the way I have always seen it.
    I couldn't give two ****s what dick **** Malloy gets paid, as long as I feel I am getting what I am worth.
    If I feel I am not, I will speak out, regardless of what anyone else is getting paid.
     
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  17. Exactly.

    I edited that comment slightly to add this:

    "The world is full of greedy ****ers who think the grass is always greener and constantly worry about what others are doing rather than living their own life."
     
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    There are cases where the split is fair, and that is mostly down to the woman agreeing and other circumstances and a marriage just ending without either having committed much of an offence to cause the marriage to fail. Sometimes they just do. Those are the minority. Espeically in Ireland I know that much.

    Women who cheat get stick, but they are the minority. In cases where there is a man and a woman involved, the man gets the blame in most cases.

    I prefer the term whore to the term slut :D

    yes men can be whores too before someone gets all manginey
     
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    Men are judged by their status, by women, that's a fact. So we work harder.

    We are judged by our looks and what we can provide. How many women would just jump on beckham's cock? They don't even know him. It's pure objectivity and it's fine, but you looking at page 3, and a woman who is using her assets to make a living, that is bad, she is not bad, only you are for looking and objectifying her. <doh>

    Their logic is ****ed up.
     
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    Ever been through a divorce involving kids?

    You see this is where we differ, as my views are based on something called experience and a place called 'reality'.

    Whereas your views are seemingly based on ****ing internet 'research' <doh>
    Your view on the how divorce and child access is handled by the courts in the present day is skewed imo. Assets are split and the children are viewed as the priority, these days the right of the child to see it's parent is the angle by which decisions are reached regarding access. I know this because I've been through it....

    The ched Evans case was a nonsense, but it was driven the coppers and the CPS, not some feminist movement ffs. He was prosecuted due to his profession and the image it has in the public eye. If he'd have been a brickie from Swansea, he'd have never been charged. For his case to be of any relevance to your point then the charge of the 'femtards' would have seen the brickie in the dock as well.

    Arnie and Clinton were married, they were being unfaithful hence the reason they were pilloried, I don't think anyone ever viewed the other party as victims either. Lewinsky achieved notoriety, but is viewed as a whore to this day, that act defined her entire life.

    There are women out there who choose to force a feminist agenda in a society that is no longer unequal, but their views are not mainstream, that's the point. You'll always get extreme views at the periphery and more fool those who may cower to them instead of challenging them, probably due to the fear of a social media backlash e.g. like in the Ched Evans case. Those twitter trolls who hounded everyone who dared to even thing about hiring the bloke post his release, were just that - trolls.

    Their view wasn't shared by the silent majority, and that's where you fall down imo. As you base your view on what's happening in the real world on some social media **** storm in a tea cup. Reality doesn't reflect - in equal measure - the kind of extreme views you see aired via those media.
     
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