I think it is physically impossible not to get your knickers twisted if you find out what the other person is on. Back in the day before I had a colleague who was being basically worked into the ground and getting nothing but abuse in meetings etc while others sat on their hands. The IT dufus uploaded an accountants computer onto a shared drive to give a new one... the days before flash drives etc etc... they left those files with all sorts of confidential info up on the drive for months and someone found the whole staffs pension info which Allowed you to get their salary too. This stimulated quite a few to leabe. My colleague was on 2/3s the salary of the guy next to him Time worked imo is not a reason for higher wages at all. It is in fact a bad reason. He moved companies and indeed countries and is now a manager in south Africa with a major engineering consultant group and met some woman over there and all.... It's human nature to compete.... this is why salaries must must must be confidential. Btw I know my bosses salary right now let's just say I don't think the hassle they get is worth the extra few pence. I'd also say my boss is on less than the lazy ****er with time served in that previous company... perhaps I should have a word eh?
Over 45 I'd say..... the reality check is that in most industries the balance of male female is way off at that age. The issue really is seeking to instantly fix artificially. It is like the ceo argument. .. why not more women as ceo? Not enough candidates and frankly if you don't throw everything in and I mean everything you won't get past middle management
So if a man gets paid less than a women for the same job, and there are plenty, "where is the femtard equality outrage?" I ask myself. "and frankly if you don't throw everything in and I mean everything you won't get past middle management" exactly. I get there are differences and some issues but to take the whole work force and lump em all in together and drag out stats to prove sexism is femtardishness to the nth degree
If you asked for 30k and got 30k, how the **** can you get all pissy about someone who asked for 31k and got it.? If that happens and you got a problem, it should be with your own lack of balls for not asking for more. Asking a salary expectation is asking to you put a value on your skill set and experience. If men invariably value their skills more then they will ask for more. The famtard fiction ignores all of these things and look just at earnings for the same jobs, and not the actual sitautions. Cos it don' fit their fiction If a man asks for a raise and shows his work to justify it, and gets it, does that mean everyone else doing the same job in said company should get a raise to his level of pay? **** no! Femtards overlook all this kind of **** and just look at pay, and anyway, in the biggest demographic they are actually earning more than men on average so they are fuill of ****. It's purely convincing women to see themselves as victims. Half the cack they bring up are fictions like in the US, the whole 1 in 5 raped in college was a complete lie, they included in those stats anyone who had sex whilse drunk or on drugs as being raped!
I find it curious that women between the ages of 22-39 earn more than men. 22-39 is also the peak years of physical hotness for most women. Could the two be linked?
Yeah it's not like women use their "assets" to get ahead right Moreover, companies are very mindful of sexism, like people who are so afraid to be seen as racist, they go overboard to the opposite direction leading to preferential treatment, I've seen this often. My own Mrs was a manager back in ireland, and she said the one thing she hated about her job was when women ****ed up, they almost always turned on the water works, using crying as a way to manipulate their way out of being in trouble for this and that at work. I've seen it first hand, in London we had this real hard ass female manager, always on people's asses if **** was not done, had a fair few men fired. One time she forgot to do the important backups of AS400 and what does she do, as this was a sackable offence, she goes to HR preemptively, crying, saying people were out to get her. She keeps her job when she fired people for less. That kind of thing I find sickening. Another girl I worked with, in a meeting with her manager, she shouts at the manager and acts aggressive, he shouts back, she starts crying and goes to HR. Thankfully in this case the company backed the manager but that is not going to always be the case.
its ego... see now here is the thing. My names steven gerrard and i am a molly coddled little **** who thinks the world revolves round me. i spit the dummy at 24 years old as my team offer me 100k not 105k per week. it is exactly the same when someone finds out the person in the next cub has 5k more wages... the LAST thought ever is what did i do.. no psychologically speaking the easiest reactions are to think someones done something wrong and they are at fault. I've seen on this very thread "waterworks" "ball busters" etc etc people do not think what should i have done they think... oh that women slept her way there or cried about something or did whatever. After all we are talking here about the individual contributor level to low management at most really. and sorry to say but 90% of these levels are spoilt brats that have to be minded both men and women.
but you are having a balanced view on this MITO, my issue with femtards is that they are not having a balanced view. They are not interested in equality unless it is equality that gives them extra rights men don't have. The CPS system favours women. In the US, if a woman sleeps with someone else and gets pregnant and doesn't tell her husband, when he eventually finds out one of his kids aint his and they get divorced, the courts make him pay child support for the kid that aint his, if he refuses he goes to jail There are a bunch of UK laws to protect women and girls, and NONE to protect men and boys. Now when you sleep with a girl the onus is on you to prove she gave consent because she can decide after she slept with you that you raped her, Ched Evans is a perfect example of this. You now possibly need to literally record the consent for backup or you are wide open to a rape allegation, which in itself is enough to ruin you.
I was wondering the same thing to be honest. I think what he is saying is that laws protect women too much I think is the jist. We should all draw up contracts of consent before we engage, like in this ad:
That wouldn't help, because as with yer woman the mattress carrier, she consented and then "changed her mind" but she only changed her mind after the fact. You need consent for every new action, can I touch your ass, can I take off your bra, can I do this, can I do that and then prove it in court if she claims rape. This is how is has gone.
Thats the whole point of a consent contract, both parties agree what will happen before hand and put it in writing, then there is no changing your mind!
Some massive generalisations going on in this thread ffs. Ultimately we all end up getting paid what we're worth. Sometimes that 'worth' is set by the individual and not by the employer, as the former allows that latter to take the piss out of them by not being strong enough in wage negotiations (whether initial or at review) and settling for a rate that they're ultimately happy to exchange their time for, but may well be less than the market rate for someone of their skillset. The current stats prove that the historic discrepancies driven by gender are a thing of the past. The fact that more younger women are now earning more than their male counterparts says more about their ability and workrate than the size of their tits sisu ffs.
I actually agree, I just wanted to steer the conversation on to boobies! please log in to view this image
"The fact that more younger women are now earning more than their male counterparts says more about their ability and workrate than the size of their tits sisu ffs" more paraphrasing, I never said they get better paid because of any such reasons did I. I merely point out that if a women gets paid more or less is not always down to "sexism" which is what is being claimed by the femtards. The stats back it up. Also, if you were arsed to read more on this thread, I said that I've worked with women who got paid more thna me even though I worked far harder, cos of time served, and I had no issue with it. I was happy with what I was getting paid after all, I didn't give a **** who else got what, I deemed my salary sufficient for what duties I was performing. I'm not the one running an authoritarian victim playing campaign based on delusions after all, the femtards are
Maybe you should actually read what you've written before replying with denials.... Yeah it's not like women use their "assets" to get ahead right - sisu #26
Are you saying that is not true? Did I say all or most women? The devil's in the details mate. You said something I never said, then quote me to make a false point
