I've just realised I completely misread your comment, I thought you was saying their early stuff was bad and the later stuff was good.
Well, now that you mention them..... same old problem that I always have with punk; good speed, energy and distorted guitars, but let down by stupid vocals.
You're jesting about one of the most iconic and recognisable voices in music, right? The Ramones weren't punk; they were unique. Johnny invented the buzzsaw guitars, Tommy's hi-hat on the drums was innovative, nobody played bass like Dee Dee and no other group had fused '60s pop melodies with fast paced two minute guitar blasts.
No - their vocals always sounded stupid to me. Is it really so unlikely that a person could find the vocals of even an iconic performer to be not to their taste? Well, whatever they were, or whatever they did, I didn't like it
Prince Buster came before Hendrix and had a distinctive sound that never really changed, so I doubt Hendrix had any effect on him at all. Madness and The Specials owe their style almost entirely to Prince Buster.
As an ageing punk, whose life in the late 70's revolved around punk music, I can honestly say the none of the US bands registered with me at all. I had some mates that liked The Ramones, but I was never a big fan, to me punk was an entirely British/Irish thing.
Your kind of missing the point really. Influence extends beyond shaping a distinctive sound, it takes many forms, it doesn't have to be direct nor does it have to be positive.
I understood your point and agree with it, I was just pointing out that it didn't apply in that particular example. It wasn't important, I probably shouldn't have posted it, I went One Step Beyond...
The Ramones got lumped in with the British bands despite being quite different from them. The only ones they had any affinity to were The Clash and the Undertones and Buzzcocks, the latter two coming along just after the Ramones and were clearly influenced by them.
Prince Buster started recording whilst Hendrix was in the backing group of Little Richard and others. To think he was influenced by Hendrix is laughable. There are indeed some idiots about as far as music is concerned. Prince Buster was on Jools Holland with Suggs. Georgie Fame was playing. Some daft that said that middle class white boy Georgie spoilt it and what the **** was he doing there. Oblivious to the fact Prince Buster is big mates with ?Georgie Fame and thatnFame played on a lot of his early recordings.
They didn't really, I personally love the Ramones and saw them a couple of times but at the time of punk, most british punks didn't take much notice of them.
There are plenty of other tales of other British bands saying they heard the Ramones and knew they had to up their game because shouty, tuneless noise didn't cut it. Punk attitude was nothing without some musical credibility. Breakneck speed guitars, melodies......The Clash, Sex Pistols, Damned, Generation X all incorporated elements of the Ramones sound, even though the fans might not have realised how much that sound owed to The Who, The Beatles, Bowie, The Beach Boys, Spector's wall of sound and bubblegum pop.
The American punk scene had little effect on the UK one, they were totally different, the Ramones were more rock than punk. the Doll's had more of an effect on the uk punk scene than the ramones did. McLaren managed them towards the end of their career and if the old legends are true steve jones and paul cook nicked a load of their equipment when they were touring the uk.
Your overlooking what it means to be influenced by someone, if Buster or any person that worked with him heard Hendrix and formed a positive or negative opinion of his music then thats an influence. It could be major (highly unlikely) or extremely minor (more probably) but to say any of the artists, producers or even managers he worked with haven't been influenced by Hendrix in some way is a massive oversight on your part.
Prince Buster's style was formed before anyone had heard of Hendrix. It never altered. Guitar riffs didn't play a part in Prince Buster's music. Your theorising is ridiculous. How about considering who influenced Hendrix?
