Lots of people get guns for their birthdays, I have gotten guns for mine. It was his father that gave him the gun and I would suspect that the father will be charged with providing a gun illegally as the son was charged with a fellony last year and was not legally allowed to be in the possession of a firearm.
No, what's the point of having one if I have to search for the keys, the go to another room for the ammo then back to the guns then load them then I am ready? If I had kids I would lock them up but I don't have any so it's no worry. Things like mass shootings and kids killing themselves are fine issues to work on but they do not signify even the tiniest fraction of our total gun related deaths as they are far less than 1% combined. There are lots of ways to cut back on the over 35,000 gun related deaths, 50,000 gun related woundings and 150,000 incidents of gun violence each year but our politicians who have been bought off by the NRA are unwilling to pass such bills, and I say the NRA as the vast majority of gun owners actually want sensible gun restrictions inacted.
Forget about what you do with your gun, I was being flippant. You say the NRA want sensible gun restrictions but they buy off the politicians who want to introduce new (presumably stricter) legislation. Bit of a contradiction there. The point though surely is that if gun ownership was a lot more controlled there would be fewer incidents, be they mass killings or the rest? You'll never control the illegal trade in weapons but you can at least make it a bit harder for the illegal trade to carry on. From small beginnings come great things, or something like that. Just think, if that boy's father had not been able to obtain a gun, because of stronger legislation, the boy may not have had the nouse to get one for himself and those innocent folk in Charleston may still be alive.
You didn't read what I said. I said that the NRA do not want restrictions, I said most Americans do and most gun owners do. So you are lecturing someone who has already said we need stronger gun laws so I am not sure what you are trying to say or who you are trying to lecture. Really, I am an American I know people who have shot and killed people i know people who have been shot at, also I have known people who have been killed, I understand the issues. This isn't the movies where people get their guns out of the backs of cars in deserted parking lots. People get their guns legally then kill their wives or other family members. The vast majority of guns used in homicides were used by the person who legally bought them. The vast majority of guns used in violence are not automatic files they are pistols and shotguns. What we need are the types of sensible restrictions that remove the rights of gun ownership for those with a history of mental illness, domestic violence, allow judges to remove guns from homes for people who it is believed are unstable, we need a real effort to treat mental illness instead of using prisons as a giant holding tank where 80% have an untreated mental illness. We need back ground checks for all purchases including gun shows and person to person sales, clip size restrictions, and certain guns should be banned. Buy back programs in certain areas and other incentive based programs would help as well. Americans want these things the NRA does not, our politicians have been purchased by the NRA and gun manufacturers. Nothing will change for the forceable future, welcome to a corporate oligarchy that we like to call a democracy with no campaign donation restrictions,
Sorry but I actually did read what you wrote, and it was this, ' and I say the NRA as the vast majority of gun owners actually want sensible gun restrictions inacted.' Now, unless I no longer understand English that says that the NRA want sensible gun restictions? Anyway I've no wish to argue with you over it and I certainly don't want to lecture as you live amongst it and I don't.
"and I say the NRA" which implies I am talking in the previous part of the sentence about only the NRA then I specify that "as the vast,,," which implies that I am saying that gun owners want something other than what the NRA. The NRA does not represent gun owners nor their beliefs on gun ownership that's what I said. I would say this. We all live in it really, both you and me. Violence penetrates every society and the ills of one penetrate every other. We do not live in a closed system like in a petree dish in a lab. You may not have millions of guns laying around but the old saying that guns do not kill people, people kill people is not completely untrue. The cancer runs deep in every society and the symptoms like gun violence manifest themselves in different ways. Addressing the root cause or causes is the only way to fix ourselves. One can come up with their own philosophies to address it but until we all do, and I am not saying we will than this is what we all will continue to be like. Poverty, bigotry, violence, oppression, etc will simply continue to be the norm.
A misunderstanding over semantics then. But I think my original point stands and you probably don't disagree with it, that guns are too easy to get hold of in USA and something should be done about it. Exactly what and how is another story... Anyway I thought you'd be in bed by now, I've only just got up!
To be fair I really speak American English. Yea easy is putting it lightly. The things that can be done are the little things like I put a few posts above. Large changes are almost impossible with the difficulty in changing our constitution. Changing the constitution would require a type of "incident" that I hesitate to even ponder (when one thinks about what we currently live with). Hannibal is on, it's my favorite show, plus I get insomnia a lot, I only sleep a few hours most days and some I don't sleep at all. On the positive side I read a lot.
You really do have to question what was his father was doing giving him a gun for his birthday in the first place. Seeing the images on his Facebook page, that he was obviously had extreme views about race related matters, it seems like giving an arsonist a can of petrol as a birthday gift.
A larger percentage of houses in Switzerland have a firearm than anywhere else as everyone keeps the rifle issued when they do their national service so as to be ready in unlikely event of an invasion. Doesn't cause any problems. Probably reduces burglary knowing the householder has a weapon.
I don't think the Nazi gold is in people's houses so there isn't much need for guns there. Bank vaults of course are a different matter.
I'd think that his father and the rest of his family have the same views he has about race. His father has to be charged (depending on if his birthday fell after he was charged with the fellony).
You've started a completely different debate there. The NHS is a terribly wasteful and inefficient way to provide health care, in the US health care is sophisticated but unobtainable to some, neither have it right and some middle ground (which currently doesn't exist) is probably the answer.
In your own ignorant way you've kind of hit the nail on the head. The problem lies beneath weapons availability and lies in the social and economic factors which are far more prevalent in the US than the other Western nations mentioned.
