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Off Topic Muslims - a fresh debate.

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Billy Death, Jun 16, 2015.

  1. Blunham Mackem

    Blunham Mackem Well-Known Member
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    Sounds no different to Billy and my old mate. I'd assume Comm wouldn't disagree either.
     
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  2. Billy Death

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    Aye that's true, they ran protection rackets & extorted from their own community. <ok>
     
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  3. Blunham Mackem

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    So much for them fighting for their own community eh?
     
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  4. Makemstine Roger

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    ****ing hated it when we were let loose on them squealed like the little pigs they were, knee cappings carried out by them almost stopped completely when they took our kid gloves off and let us at em
     
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    More absurd? Certainly not. Potentially a more plausible root of existence, certainly, but it is a question that doesn't actually matter, and we devote too much of our time overthinking it. What happens when we have it? The reason for everything? Do we get on with actually living then?

    Absurd is believing something so vigorously that you kill other people because they don't believe the same thing as yourself. Absurd is taking a book and believing what you've read is indisputable when it is supported by nothing but the fictional web within the pages. Taking A Brief History of Time by itself and holding it as truth is as stupid as taking a bible and holding it as truth, and both are as stupid as going down a pub and listening to the town-drunk in the corner for a few hours and believing his wisdom. Truth is essentially the art of deciding which liar you are going to believe.

    We live, we ****, we die. That is all we know, that is all we'll ever know, we just don't know it <laugh>
     
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  6. Billy Death

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    In some places like the Lower Ardoyne, Ballymurphy, the Creggan, the Bogside they'd extort money from the shops & pubs they'd purport to protect.
    They fought for a cause but they were dirty scum.
    It really was a ****ed up place.
     
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  7. Nostalgic

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    Back to Islam - the Bible was written in the third century to suit Emperor Constantine who got rid of a bundle of pagan and roman gods, the Koran written in the sixth century on the teachings of an illiterate peasant who had a visitation from a higher spirit after he had spend forty days in a cave. He also called for the destruction of false idols for one true god. Too many parallels between Jesus and Mohammed not to be close to breakaway religions.

    The current problem has been almost a thousand years in the making and politics have used religion for various gains in that time. Islam is obviously richer because of the world need for oil and can afford in-fighting to carry on to a higher end. Probably both sides believe that for evil to prosper etc.

    A final point on the Koran, I have known Muslims in the RAF who happily drank beer knowing that the specific teachings forbade them to drink wine - as it dulls the senses. Other alcohol was therefore fair game.
     
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  8. MrRAWhite

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    I ti s my view that we shouldn't be classing Muslims as one single entity. My main concerns are around the rise of fundamental Islam as both a political and military force. This is what we need to address as a matter of urgency..
     
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    The thing is RAW that`s very nearly what it is. Kick one and they all limp. Someone shouts `insult to the prophet` in Denmark and the streets are full all over Europe.

    I think it`s the responsibility of muslims to sort out the fundamentalists. It`s their prophet, their faith, their ideology, their mosques, their imams, their culture and their communities. It`s perfectly understandable that doing nothing is seen as tacit agreement.

    Someone draws a cartoon and there`s thousands of them jumping up and down. ISIS behead 100 women and children and there`s barely a murmur.
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  10. Billy Death

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    We should all go to the mosques & piss in their shoes. <ok>
     
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    I have said along along that the so called moderate majority should be the ones taking the lead with this.
    One pretty frightening statistic that emerged recently was that in a survey carried out among a cross section of British Muslims, 25% of them sympathised with the actions of those that murdered those French cartoonists..
     
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  12. Billy Death

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    And that tells you all you need to know.
    The ****ers think the world owes them & can impose their archaic, abhorrent, ancient, out-of-date beliefs on whichever country they settle in.
    TBH, I'm sick of pussy footing around here. I don't like the bastards.
    FFS, they don't even like each other. Sunni killing shi'ite & both of them killing kurds.
     
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  13. Gordon Armstrong

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    To be fair, though, Billy, Lemon Curd is fecking horrible :emoticon-0119-puke:
     
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  14. Billy Death

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    Indeed, what would Little Miss Muffet have to say?
    Nowt if Mohammed had got a howld of her cos his cock would be in her gob..
     
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  15. MrRAWhite

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    You piss in their shoes and they will **** in your curry..<laugh>
     
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    Abrahamic religions are all corrupt, I'm an Anglo Saxon, I kneel for no Jew nor Arab.
     
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  17. Blunham Mackem

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    God, not another fundamentalist Druid.

    Is it Mid-summers Eve already?
     
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    Forgotten all about them.

    Lock up your daughters (and the cutlery). <laugh>
     
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    I'm no druid nor pagan, I am aware of my heritage is all.
     
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  20. Blunham Mackem

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    We can rule Jedi out as well then!
     
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