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The ones I can't add, amend or delete; aka all of them lol

 

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well...Neville is

 

So you've just arrived from Italy and you're expecting a sentence, eh?

No wonder we couldn't find the mafia

 

It looks like I am very much alive, and no, I didn't make it up. I'm not sure surviving will help me a great deal with some people, but all I can say is that I have been consistent from the start and am an innocent townie.

I agree that we need to be very very careful now. Get it wrong tomorrow night with the lynching and targets and it could be game over. I know who my number 1 target is, but I am now very confused about everyone else. I am reading innocent for most people - even the ones attacking me. I think I am going to keep my counsel for a bit and try and read back. I'm not seeing many guilty tells - just a lack of innocent tells from some people.

 

One tip. To help narrow down who the remaining Town roles mighg be to see who you can trust, then take a look back at when they took action vs when certain players actually participated snd voted.

The clues are all there, but I'm not doing the work for you, especially seeing as most appear to not trust me.

By the way, ACS trusted me! And I indicated he was Town.

 

Afc can you confirm the number of mafia and cartel please? Is it 2 & 0? We're assuming its 4-2-0-1 for town-mafia-cartel-SK, we dont want to have a surprise later on that cartel is still alive! In previous games mito would say "the cartel has been eliminated" or something to that effect, i'm suspicious now...

 

This!

Why did the Mafia not kill Less Hope, the newly self-confessed Town saviour?
Have they used up all their kills already? Are they sitting ducks ?
Or do they want Less Hope kept alive?

 

Yes! I second this request!

Please confirm the numbers AFC

 

For once, and only once probably, I think you have raised an important question.

Why have the mafia not been killing anyone?

Is it because they can't anymore? Have they run out of kills? We only know for sure that they have killed one person. We still haven't had it confirmed if Gerrez death was at the hands of the mafia - though I think that is the most likely explanation. Or is it because they haven't felt threatened yet with the people we have been pointing the finger at? Did they give up the right to kill in exchange for neutralising investigations? There have been a few obvious kills that they haven't taken (MITO/Funky). We know they didn't try as they act first. Have they taken control of meth head instead? Meth head has done the job that I would have expected them to do. Only meth head will know the answer to that one, but if there is any possibilty that meth head could be of use to us still in this game then I don't think he should identify himself. Certainly not yet.

 

Thanks for the compliment on my one and only valid question.
Personally I think there have been quite a few more which you have chosen to dismiss.

 

There probably have been more. The problem is that we don't know what info is genuine. It's a bit like that thing about getting a monkey to do a nultiple choice - they'll still get some answers correct (not that I am implying you are a monkey mackem )

 

no, then you'd be confusing me with JPF.

 

Sebb

 

I vote Sebb. Will change later if you guys think someone else is guilty but at this stage he's my #1 target for mafia/SK, & seems like quite a few other posters think so too.

Obi wan, can you explain why you are gunning for Neville? Do you think he's still part of the cartel or do you think he's mafia/SK? I'd really like confirmation from Afc what the overall status is. I've had a town read on Neville for ages so I still think he's innocent, but this game messes with your head towards the end. Would like your opinion as he's the only poster you've targeted with your posts really?

EDIT: Oh, and you were trying to link Sebb and Swarbs I think, or was that Neville? Will read back now.

EDIT 2: OK I got that wrong. Obi Wan has been suspicious of Neville (pg 109-110 & pg 117-118), and then had a go at Swarbs for defending Neville.
It was ACS who was linking Sebb and Swarbs together. (pg 113-114)
You're popular Swarbs!

 

Guys, what are your thoughts on the meth head? Do you think he is really town aligned & has just been unlucky to kill townies every night, or do you think he has become linked to the mafia somehow? Would really like the count of mafia & cartel!

Would really like to hear from the meth head what's been happening, but don't want him to reveal his identity yet. See below scenarios:

Situation A
Maybe if we do manage to kill 2 bad guys (hopefully SK + 1 mafia) out of the likely 3 kills tonight he can reveal and explain what's been happening as there will be only 1 bad guy left & will make him a confirmed innocent? If someone else claims the role as well it's a choice out of 2 & either way we should win the game with two other innocents vs the 2 claimed meth heads.

Situation B
If we only kill 1 bad guy ( 1 mafia) then don't reveal as SK will kill you the next night if we don't find him. If we kill SK & have 2 mafia left then revealing your role should be safe as long as they can't kill, which looks like it is the case.

Situation C
If we dont kill any bad guys then its going to be very close but did the below calculations & we can still win in certain situations!
C1) Worst case we lose 3 townies & its 2 mafia and 1 SK vs 1 town, in this case town loses unless they get very lucky with coin tosses.
C2) "best case" is lose 2 townies if meth head targets the same person as SK. In that case its 2 mafia vs SK vs 2 town including meth head. Still possible to win but will need to be lucky/brilliant (lynch mafia, SK kills other mafia, meth head kills SK, town wins!). Looking at that it actually is still possible to win if Situation C occurs, because even if meth head targets the same person as SK it would go to the next day with SK vs 2 town, or if SK is lynched & meth head kills 1 mafia it will be 1 mafia vs 2 town!

Let me know if i have my logic wrong or if you agree!

 

His frantic post-death tagging seems to indicate otherwise.

Although that is based on the, imo quite reasonable, premise that he is the only one tagging the thread

 

I seriously doubt meth head has become non town aligned. But I think there is going to be some weirdness in his role, like he has to give a choice of two and it's a coin flip, or a coin flip that he kills someone at random.

Or he's just as incompetent as a rest of us

Either way, I'm basically suspicious of everyone at this stage! This is a proper head **** of a game, it is honestly the first Mafia game in which I can't make a single clear identification of a bad guy, other than Mikey who is now gone.

@Lucaaas , why are you on Sebb? Would be useful to hear the reasoning, as we really need all the info we have atm.

 

And now he has liked my post from beyond the grave.

But does that mean he agrees with the tags, or with my assumption that he is the one tagging like mad?

Or is he just being a ****?

 

To Lucaas and Sir T I agree with Swarbs and would like your reasoning as to voting for me.

As like anyone would say, except Mikey, I'm an innocent Townie.

If you go through the posts you will see, amongst other things, that I quickly supported No Chance when he began advocating Funky might be Town. The relevant part for me being that that was against the feeling at that particular time. Why would I do that if I was Mafia. Surely (stop calling me Shirley) I would have pushed for Funky to be lynched.

Also I have repeatedly been putting my reasoning out as to why I would vote for someone to be lynched again not what you would expect a Mafia man to do. I haven't always been right (have I been right at all?) but for example in relation to Tash I did vote for him but had a logical reason for doing so Cartel inactivity = Tash inactivity. I didn't realise that Pablo had run amok in the House of Mirrors.

For Sir T I have supported not lynching you even when you were the only possible lead we had. If you are a Townie then you must remember that point in the game.

Lucaas I think is Mafia for the reasons I've said before and I still think that is the case and so don't expect him to change his vote but it would be nice now we are at the business end of the game if he set out his reasoning for others.