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[moreinjuredthanowen]

Still I'm not convinced about this extra piece of info Valley got though. Are there hidden actions we don't know about? Acording to the rules his investigation as Physic only returns a straight town/non town answer. Why hasn't he explained why he's got this extra info? @ValleyGraduate12?

I also find it hard to comprehend that if The Mafia had a hidden action of town person manipulation, why they'd use it first night, a tool much better used later to deflect attentions. Not convinced by Mito's story at all. It's easy for him to say that he's the Drunk PI and must be true because nobody else has claimed the role, but we've just lost a doctor who didn't contribute at all.

The heat is on the right people though and it should unravel it self. I'll stick with Tobes.

why? the rues clealry state there is some hidden action.

with a 3 man team do you think its seriously possible that two mafia are saying the same thing.

I got the pm. i killed ibwt. this in effect puts me in a much worse position than me using the confusion of valley saying all he saw was me with a bloody knife.

if i was mafia i'd be using that confusion and the two pieces of info to rip into him.

I am town. I am the drunk so I am telling you exactly that i got and how it was me who killed ibwt

finally if there is one single person about to contradict my role surely they would come out today... the fact they have not can only leave 3 explanations.

1. i am telling the truth

2. i am lucky and the real one is inactive.

3. he is too scared

if it is no 3 i'd say come out cos you can catch me out and get me killed off and save tennis.

there will not be one though as if there is I want to be killed to prove i am telling truth and whoever comes out is revealed as bad guy too.

....................

in short this is now up to you guys. if you just ignore the info and choose not to believe you end up missing out on killing the villians today.

 

[Rum & Black for 2]

I am with you 100% on something not feeling right (as I have said from last night). I am VERY suspicious of MITO. I do think though that we should all work in one direction. Tobes is even more suspicious in my book as I feel like we should trust Valley. I'd say lynch Tobes tonight and get Valley to investigate MITO. If he is who he says it will show up and we can lynch Tennis. If he isn't it will show up and we lynch MITO.

This.

463 pages today and No Chance sums it all up in 3 lines. MITO no-one is looking to lynch you tonight, just relax and have a beer.

What else is there to say at this stage? I don't know but I'm looking forward to the next 371 pages to find out.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

I'm dead meat so I might as well cough before being strung up.

I'm not town.

Neither am I mafia

I'm Pablo.

I picked IBWT to join the cartel but mito killed the ****er.

The cartel was never going to win anyway, as it had no kills and it would have taken a week plus by my reckoning to get into a winning position, I was always going to get lynched or investigated at some point before then, so I was never going to win anyway.

Lynch away.

This would confirm Valley as the psychic. This would in turn supports MITO's claim of being forced into killing Biscan. If MITO is telling the truth then it presents us with a 66% chance of Tennis being Mafia.

Valley needs to investigate MITO. Investigating Tennis won't tell us anything because of the inaccuracy of MITO's investigations.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

as long as you lynch tobes tonight you on't be dissappointed

tobes has said something to make sure he does die.

he could still be lying town... he could be straight up on it. we will find out at 9pm.

this makes this game very hard for mafia if true. they are a man down form start and man down due to my invetigate imo due to tenni's defence

that perhaps means 2 guys are out there. to find out of 15. mafia only have the one kill plus hidden power.

town wims imo if we carry on

be all the suspicions you want on me.. but kill tobes first then me if you have to.

 

[Brian Storm]

Something I've already highlighted, maybe he can't say what he wants to? Maybe he is being restricted by Mafia influence?

Looking at the rules only the Mafia has a hidden action, the Town has a hidden role. But he's already confirmed his role as psychic. There's no explanation on the rules as to why he got this extra info. It stinks to high heaven to me.

Such early confessions of roles do worry me as any real physic or PI would not out themselves so early with the detective and Dr being dead. We're expected to believe that after day one we know the Doctor, the Detective, the PI and The psychic. That's every town role except the hidden role. I don't buy it. Either Valley or Mito or both are lying imo. Mafia claiming to be a town role has two benefits, 1 is they draw the real ones out and kill them, they die as a result of being outed but with no means to investigate the remaining mafia member can disappear into the shadows and watch the town lynch themselves night on night. Or two, the Physic/PI know the important value of their own life and how damaging it would be to loose all investigative skills for the game with a Dead detective and no Dr protection that they let the mafia claim responsibility of the role and try to convince people their knowlage of the real mafia by alternative means. In the mean time, the Mafia have towns people believing they're allies putting them in the perfect position to manipulate the game. Their only danger is the real PI/Physic convincing people without revealing themselves which is a very tough task. If that makes sense.

 

[Rum & Black for 2]

Hurrah, I've caught up!!!!



Now to go out for lunch...

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

Looking at the rules only the Mafia has a hidden action, the Town has a hidden role. But he's already confirmed his role as psychic. There's no explanation on the rules as to why he got this extra info. It stinks to high heaven to me.

Such early confessions of roles do worry me as any real physic or PI would not out themselves so early with the detective and Dr being dead. We're expected to believe that after day one we know the Doctor, the Detective, the PI and The psychic. That's every town role except the hidden role. I don't buy it. Either Valley or Mito or both are lying imo. Mafia claiming to be a town role has two benefits, 1 is they draw the real ones out and kill them, they die as a result of being outed but with no means to investigate the remaining mafia member can disappear into the shadows and watch the town lynch themselves night on night. Or two, the Physic/PI know the important value of their own life and how damaging it would be to loose all investigative skills for the game with a Dead detective and no Dr protection that they let the mafia claim responsibility of the role and try to convince people their knowlage of the real mafia by alternative means. In the mean time, the Mafia have towns people believing they're allies putting them in the perfect position to manipulate the game. Their only danger is the real PI/Physic convincing people without revealing themselves which is a very tough task. If that makes sense.

The hidden Mafia power could be a heavy. They leant on Valley and as part of that he has to remain quiet throughout the day. It is a pure guess / hunch, nothing concrete at all.

Tobes has just confessed he is Pablo which if true (can't see why it wouldn't be unless he's being a ****) it confirms Valley as the psychic. Hopefully, Valley investigates MITO (although that could be a risk since if MITO is being truthful then the Mafia will probably target him)

 

[Swarbs]

I'm dead meat so I might as well cough before being strung up.

I'm not town.

Neither am I mafia

I'm Pablo.

I picked IBWT to join the cartel but mito killed the ****er.

The cartel was never going to win anyway, as it had no kills and it would have taken a week plus by my reckoning to get into a winning position, I was always going to get lynched or investigated at some point before then, so I was never going to win anyway.

Lynch away.

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The cartel was even less likely to win after its leader got investigated on the first night!

In all seriousness, that's handy to know - it basically means Valley is legit and either MITO or Sir Tennisball (66%) is Mafia. So we have the cartel and a lead on the Mafia - key now is to find the SK and win in record time

 

[Swarbs]

The hidden Mafia power could be a heavy. They leant on Valley and as part of that he has to remain quiet throughout the day. It is a pure guess / hunch, nothing concrete at all.

Tobes has just confessed he is Pablo which if true (can't see why it wouldn't be unless he's being a ****) it confirms Valley as the psychic. Hopefully, Valley investigates MITO (although that could be a risk since if MITO is being truthful then the Mafia will probably target him)

Can't remember Tobes ever being a **** before....

 

[Brian Storm]

why? the rues clealry state there is some hidden action.

with a 3 man team do you think its seriously possible that two mafia are saying the same thing.

I got the pm. i killed ibwt. this in effect puts me in a much worse position than me using the confusion of valley saying all he saw was me with a bloody knife.

if i was mafia i'd be using that confusion and the two pieces of info to rip into him.

I am town. I am the drunk so I am telling you exactly that i got and how it was me who killed ibwt

finally if there is one single person about to contradict my role surely they would come out today... the fact they have not can only leave 3 explanations.

1. i am telling the truth

2. i am lucky and the real one is inactive.

3. he is too scared

if it is no 3 i'd say come out cos you can catch me out and get me killed off and save tennis.

there will not be one though as if there is I want to be killed to prove i am telling truth and whoever comes out is revealed as bad guy too.

....................

in short this is now up to you guys. if you just ignore the info and choose not to believe you end up missing out on killing the villians today.

I'm exploring possibilities that's all, I knew you be on it like a shot being all defensive. You diving in on the defence every time somebody ponders ideas makes you look dodgy as ****. Do yourself a favour, shut up, and let people play the game without you trying to control people you dodgy looking ****

I've not read all your post, I'm sick of the sight of you. You're worse than AFC, your continuous spamming of the game is making things difficult. I you're a townie and you die it's your own fault.

 

[Brian Storm]

The hidden Mafia power could be a heavy. They leant on Valley and as part of that he has to remain quiet throughout the day. It is a pure guess / hunch, nothing concrete at all.

Tobes has just confessed he is Pablo which if true (can't see why it wouldn't be unless he's being a ****) it confirms Valley as the psychic. Hopefully, Valley investigates MITO (although that could be a risk since if MITO is being truthful then the Mafia will probably target him)

Sound like a plan that fella.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

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The cartel was even less likely to win after its leader got investigated on the first night!

In all seriousness, that's handy to know - it basically means Valley is legit and either MITO or Sir Tennisball (66%) is Mafia. So we have the cartel and a lead on the Mafia - key now is to find the SK and win in record time

Actually, Valley, MITO and Tennis could all be innocent.

Valley is confirmed psychic as far as am concerned now (and I've adjusted my noted accordingly).

MITO could have been forced or he could be the hitman. If forced then he probably is the PI but that doesn't mean Tennis is definitely guilty either, only a 66% that he is guilty (still high odds). If MITO is guilty then tennis is obviously innocent.

We need Valley to investigate one of the others, preferably MITO.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Looking at the rules only the Mafia has a hidden action, the Town has a hidden role. But he's already confirmed his role as psychic. There's no explanation on the rules as to why he got this extra info. It stinks to high heaven to me.

Such early confessions of roles do worry me as any real physic or PI would not out themselves so early with the detective and Dr being dead. We're expected to believe that after day one we know the Doctor, the Detective, the PI and The psychic. That's every town role except the hidden role. I don't buy it. Either Valley or Mito or both are lying imo. Mafia claiming to be a town role has two benefits, 1 is they draw the real ones out and kill them, they die as a result of being outed but with no means to investigate the remaining mafia member can disappear into the shadows and watch the town lynch themselves night on night. Or two, the Physic/PI know the important value of their own life and how damaging it would be to loose all investigative skills for the game with a Dead detective and no Dr protection that they let the mafia claim responsibility of the role and try to convince people their knowlage of the real mafia by alternative means. In the mean time, the Mafia have towns people believing they're allies putting them in the perfect position to manipulate the game. Their only danger is the real PI/Physic convincing people without revealing themselves which is a very tough task. If that makes sense.

1. ibwt was picked out by the mafia as dangerous. they killed him

2. billy was inactive after being on early. we town all lynched him in a tie

3. valley picked tobes to investigate.. why? cos he was on but lurking about IMO but only valley can say.. AND tobes has now claimed to be cartel boss anyway so either you beleive something nuts like tobes was revealed by mafia or valley is telling truth

4. I picked out sir tennisball quite early. I played my game plan so if you suspect me fair enough but if you go gogle detective strategy you will see revaling info is the detectives job.. not innocents but guilty folk. once i had a guilty person i had to reveal it especially as i have no other choice.

in the end it boils down to this on day 2.. have your suspicions but tobes is the guy who's admitted it and he needs the lynch.

5. If you think seriously there are two mafia standing out in front of you while two detectives sit back fiar enough. they can investigate us both and come back to you and tell you.....

6. the numbers don't add up. if two mafia were ut in fornt you've 13 votes today to get us. we could not possible win from there


any way you cut it the truth will come out. its far too early for a hail mary mafia game.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Actually, Valley, MITO and Tennis could all be innocent.

Valley is confirmed psychic as far as am concerned now (and I've adjusted my noted accordingly).

MITO could have been forced or he could be the hitman. If forced then he probably is the PI but that doesn't mean Tennis is definitely guilty either, only a 66% that he is guilty (still high odds). If MITO is guilty then tennis is obviously innocent.

We need Valley to investigate one of the others, preferably MITO.

I have not been forced in any way to say what i said. i freely said it

you can mark me as hitman but i suggest you make a note that you don't know such a role exists any more than a heavy or any other role. you don't even know at this point if the mafia have individual powers. the game last time had general mafia. If afc set this up with individual mafia powers that can be knocked off an a man down then the mafia are seriously in toruble.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

I have not been forced in any way to say what i said. i freely said it

you can mark me as hitman but i suggest you make a note that you don't know such a role exists any more than a heavy or any other role. you don't even know at this point if the mafia have individual powers. the game last time had general mafia. If afc set this up with individual mafia powers that can be knocked off an a man down then the mafia are seriously in toruble.

Forced as in forced to kill Biscan. You getting hot under the collar there MITO...?

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I'm exploring possibilities that's all, I knew you be on it like a shot being all defensive. You diving in on the defence every time somebody ponders ideas makes you look dodgy as ****. Do yourself a favour, shut up, and let people play the game without you trying to control people you dodgy looking ****

I've not read all your post, I'm sick of the sight of you. You're worse than AFC, your continuous spamming of the game is making things difficult. I you're a townie and you die it's your own fault.

I am well famous for being all over the games. and i did tell you i was far worse than AFC in sign up!

 

[Brian Storm]

1. ibwt was picked out by the mafia as dangerous. they killed him

2. billy was inactive after being on early. we town all lynched him in a tie

3. valley picked tobes to investigate.. why? cos he was on but lurking about IMO but only valley can say.. AND tobes has now claimed to be cartel boss anyway so either you beleive something nuts like tobes was revealed by mafia or valley is telling truth

4. I picked out sir tennisball quite early. I played my game plan so if you suspect me fair enough but if you go gogle detective strategy you will see revaling info is the detectives job.. not innocents but guilty folk. once i had a guilty person i had to reveal it especially as i have no other choice.

in the end it boils down to this on day 2.. have your suspicions but tobes is the guy who's admitted it and he needs the lynch.

5. If you think seriously there are two mafia standing out in front of you while two detectives sit back fiar enough. they can investigate us both and come back to you and tell you.....

6. the numbers don't add up. if two mafia were ut in fornt you've 13 votes today to get us. we could not possible win from there


any way you cut it the truth will come out. its far too early for a hail mary mafia game.

I'm not saying I suspect you, I'm saying you're making yourself look dodgy as ****. And like I said I was pondering ideas. Chill your boots. I don't need your reasoning, I've heard enough from you as I've said. It's other peoples Ideas I'm interested in as well as those who are offering nowt.

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

Forced as in forced to kill Biscan. You getting hot under the collar there MITO...?

no enjoying it.

I was making sure your notes were just so.

mind if i rearrange your desk while i'm at it

 

[moreinjuredthanowen]

I'm not saying I suspect you, I'm saying you're making yourself look dodgy as ****. And like I said I was pondering ideas. Chill your boots. I don't need your reasoning, I've heard enough from you as I've said. It's other peoples Ideas I'm interested in as well as those who are offering nowt.

ok. then go ask them. i'll go get a bottle of something cheap and drink myself into a corner for a while then.

 

[Super G Ted'inho]

no enjoying it.

I was making sure your notes were just so.

mind if i rearrange your desk while i'm at it

Do what you want whilst I'm in the ****ter