Him and o.****e are to old. Sad but true. Keep them. Never move forward. No coaching roles are different
His knee has been knackered since he joined us, hes still played enough games in the past 2 years to suggest he could play another season. You keep asking people if they know inside info on his wages, but you dont either, your assuming they will be high, and i'm assuming they will be low. Based on the fact hes 36 and has an injury record, theres no way the club would sign him on a big wage, use your brain. You cant see the bigger picture because you dont know what the clubs plans are. You dont know who we are buying and who we are selling, yet you are making numerous assumptions on different levels, and somehow involving the one year contract of brown as part of the problem. If we need to we can release roberge (will never play for us anyway). Your making a mountain out of a mole hill.
£2m max for me. Last year of his deal and he'd be free. £5m for a penalty taker? We have Gomez who was free!!
If we release Roberge we have to pay him the rest of his contract man. That comes out of our wage budget for the length remaining on his contract. It's the equivalent of him still being on the pay role. Think about what you're saying. I know Brown won't be working for free. And the club don't know who they're selling, it depends on other clubs and the players personal terms, completly out of our clubs hands. The important part which I outlined is not an assumption. It's fact. Premier League rules fact at that. It's my opinion that over filling squad places with squad players before bringing in the quality we need is risky, as the club don't know if we can move enough players on or free enough wages to bring the quality in. One thing is for certain, I've given the pros and cons more thought than you. Simply saying he's been good the last two seasons is a bit one dimensional in thinking for me I'm afraid. There are many other factors. Fact.
Ok youve thought hard about this one. So what your saying is, keep roberge who wouldnt be able to get a game for the rose and crown. And release our consistantly best defender? The reason I said release roberge is because of the squad numbers you keep going on about. If roberge stays at the club and never plays, whats the point in him being there? We might as well have brown on low wages who we know can play at this level. Your over thinking the financials, yet you havent got the slightest clue about any of the financials. Do you think the club would sign brown if it didnt make financial sense? Your a fan, not an accountant for the club, stop thinking about the figures (which you have no clue about) and starting thinking about the best playing side for us, because your pretending to know things that you couldnt possibly have the slightest clue about, no matter how much 'thought' you put into it.
its a shame footballers are so tightly wrapped up in contracts, I know it benefits both sides, but if I was surplus to requirements my boss would just make me redundant without a second thought. Be good if we could make a player redundant on his performances etc. and pay him the minimum redundancy pay. Just a thought.
No! I'm saying releasing roberge means we're still paying his wages for the rest of the year so it doesn't free up any wages rendering releasing him completly pointless. Might as well hold out for a sale or a loan where we could shift his wages so it's not on the bill
Holy crap He seems to think releasing players means they don't want the rest of the money owed to them
Im talking about the squad numbers situation, not the fee we would have to pay him. If no one wants him, agree a compo with him and release him, frees up a squad place that way.
So why blow off the chance of freeing his wages to use on a new signing? We could just not give him a squad number, it would be exactly the same as paying him off. At least this way we still have the chance off loading his wages up till deadline or even January. Paying him off is exactly the same as keeping him at the club financially. The only person it would benefit is Roberge. Why should he agree a compo when he can have the full wages owed to him? The only way that would ever happen is if another club want to give him a pay rise whilst being unwilling to stump a transfer fee. Unlikely. Again, Sunderland are the only losers. I don't want us flushing money down the drain but you seem dead set on it. My point is really simple, bulking out the squad with squad players before we've brought in players who improve us is risky. It ties up wage budget. It's not rocket science to see why.
bet she's canny tight below mind, cant have seen that much action as she only lives with her pet pussy.
Surprised and disappointed at this to be honest. Still think we need two new CBs in including Coates.
Can't get my head around this one to be honest. I could understand one or the other of O'Shea or Brown (which means O'Shea given the contract situations) but why both when we should be looking at easing O'Shea out of the starting XI over the next year. Unless the club have found a way to walk away from any deal for Vergini, but even then having one and possible two pensioners on the bench as CBs still doesn't make much sense to me
I get the arguments. I agree with Funky here that we need the core of who we want in place first and not who we´ve got - but do we actually know this to be true?
It's as true as any other newspaper report mate. Nobody knows for sure until it happens. I first read it on the sunderlandecho site, and its appeared in various other places.
I think the issue is playing the two of them together as they lack some mobility. If the plan is to bring in a CB or two who they can mentor and partner then it could be fine. If the plan is to keep them both as the core of your defence with Rev as your RB then you have to wonder what squad what the idea for the next season is. Surely the point is that Dick will make the club and squad a bit stronger in the next 12 months, this sort of deal is a stop-gap.
