Exactly. If the food tastes really good, do you get out of your seat, go to the kitchen and slip some change into the chef's pocket? No, you may ask someone to compliment the chef and that is all.
So, you're an employer yourself? Presumably at a restaurant? If that's the case then I can understand why you're in favour of tips; it makes up for the fact that you can't pay your own staff adequately. As customers, it's not our fault. It's your responsibility, mate.
But don't postmen get a bonus of some sort? And we used to tip our postlady and milkman at Christmas every year, pretty handsomely if I recall. The chef's (who are paid more) prepare the food, it's then up to the front of house staff to make sure everybody enjoys their experience. If there's a problem with the food, why should the waiter be punished?
At Christmas? So I can eat in a local restaurant every week without tipping and then nip in at the end of the year and slip them a fiver, yes? I didnt say anything about that. You're the one who came up with the 'shirt in the shop' analogy. The guy making the shirts gets paid more than the shop staff. Why is it the shop staffs fault if there's an issue with the shirt? Give him a tip if you're happy with it and the way they sold it.
Well, not even about the money, some customers are less forgiving and can dish out some pretty horrific verbal abuse for something that in all honesty wasn't their fault.
How about a ticket inspector on a train? They get loads of abuse when the train is late and it's not their fault so when they ask for your ticket nicely, give them a tip.
Well it doesn't, it's about etiquette isn't it? It's about being polite and acknowledging good service. I was always happy with people provided they'd had a nice time, I honestly didn't care about tips. What annoyed me was the people who got on their high horse about it. If you aren't going to leave anything, fine, you'll not get any better or worse treatment than somebody who does. But don't start trying to justify it, not when I'm working 14 hour days 6 days a week and you've just sat on your arse eating a fillet steak.
Just in the name of accuracy, the chances are that the person who made the shirt only earns a fraction of the wage of someone working in a shop in England.
That's fine then because I've never got on my high horse about it in a restaurant. I'm always very polite to bar staff and appreciate their hard work but I've never left a tip. I only shared my opinion because guess what? The title of the thread is 'Tipping etiquette?'.
Depends where it was sourced from but I take your point. That wasnt really the issue with his messed-up analogy.
That grinds my gears an all, why are people such ****s to the people who aren't at fault? Why do we have this need to vent our frustrations at people who aren't in control? What gives them the right to speak to another human being like that?
It sounded better in my head. It just dawned on me that I went to China Red (the old Coach and Horses in Dunswell, one of the best I've had in a long time) on Saturday and I tipped and they didn't seem to mind.
I'm 18 and I've actually paid for meals, yes. Aren't you a ****** you thinks homosexuals can be 'cured'?