The move isnt so that Spurs can steal him, they have no intention of signing him. But under FA rules clubs have to pay compensation to the previous club of a player they sign if he is under 24, even if its a bosman. Burnley wanted around £7m in comp, Liverpool offered a lower amount. Burnley got on the blower to Spurs and asked them to bid for Ings, so Spurs bid a higher amount than he is worth (£12m) and when Burnleys case gets to the tribunal for them to decide how much comp Liverpool need to pay, Burnley can say "Well Spurs offered £12m, so he is worth that" and it will be reason for them to rule a higher amount in Burnleys favour for Liverpool to pay. Spurs are helping Burnley fleece Liverpool basically.
No worries, we'll keep hold of Sterling for his remaining 2 years then and get what we think he's worth now at a Tribunal when he leaves for free? Good times
aye. So it counts as an official bid. If the tribunal dont see right this move right away and dismiss it then it will be hilarious. Why would you buy a player for £12m who has 2 weeks left on his contract? If Spurs were really interested in signing him, they would have offered him a bosman, like Pool
Doesn't matter what he's worth, only matters what he cost to develop Paying what he's "worth" would be an illegal de facto contract extension - Burnley get all the benefits of him being under contract for another year without having to pay his wages
I know but if a player is worth more he is better. Better player = Cost more to develop. Its a very transparent attempt to get a few extra bucks out of Liverpool and I dont see it working to be honest, and lord knows why Spurs have stuck their snout in to help, maybe Ings spurned them in favour of Pool. Will be interesting to see what happens.
I understand that, but: 1) Surely the bid isn't a bid in the proper sense, as Burnley don't decide where Ings goes, he does. And whichever club he chooses then has to pay Burnley compensation. Burnley can accept bids left, right and centre, but they are irrelevant to where he goes. Put it this way, if Liverpool were now to pull out of the deal, what obligation would Ings have to speak to Spurs? None, as far as I can tell. Ergo, any such bid is irrelevant. The only possible relevance it has is that it indicates a level at which Burnley would accept the level of compensation rather than go to tribunal. 2) Isn't the tribunal compensation supposed to compensate for the costs of development etc., and is not based on the supposed value of the player, in which case again, any bids received are irrelevant?
The difference is nobody has bid for Sterling that anyone knows about right? Plus being just a kid an a wee bit young his development costs will be low
....but the deal couldn't have been completed until the 1st July when the window opens.....and on that day he's a free agent so Burnley have nothing to sell at that point. It's Levy trying to be clever and merely making Burnley and himself look like amateurs in the process, as it's completely obvious what their combined intention is.
Yes, but outside the window. So again, if we're counting it as an actual bid rather than a compensation figure, what exactly are Spurs supposedly buying here? Becasue when the window actually opens and the deal can officially go through, Ings is out of contract?
Spurs aren't trying to get Ings. They are, for reasons I cannot fathom other than being ****s, trying to help Burnley get a bigger pay out from Liverpool by falsely increasing Ings value The value of the player IS what they have paid to develop him in their eyes at least. Again, not sure the tribunal will see it that way. What other reason would there be for Spurs to bid £12m for a player who has 2 weeks left to run on a contract and has already agreed a pre-contract with another club>?
Spurs wanted permission to wrap up a deal early. They bid a number that allowed them to do so. That will clearly be knocked on the head as a fee as it's totally from left field. I'm sure it's 3 Mil from lfc and 8 Mil from Burnley and some fee in the middle will be agreed. The spurs stuff just shows he wasn't total without suitors. At one time Utd were linked too though God knows by whom.
No they've paid for his training which costs about the same whether you're amazing or ****e: Any cost incurred by either Club in operating a Football Academy or Centre of Excellence including (without limitation) the cost of providing for players attending thereat: Living accommodation; Training and playing facilities; Scouting, coaching, administrative and other staff; Education and welfare requirements; Playing and training strip and other clothing; Medical and first aid facilities; Friendly and competitive matches and overseas tours; Any other cost incurred by either Club directly or indirectly attributable to the training and development of players including any fee referred to in Regulation. Maybe a better player gets through more playing strips so there's a few extra shirts at about £100 a go
I know, I was simply pointing out that any bid for an actual transfer (as opposed to a compensation payment) has no meaning. That's spurious at best. Moreover, aren't footballers treated as intangible assets for accounting purposes? One of the first rules of intangible assets is that the value (normally) has nothing to do with the cost. Indeed.
I agree with you both that i cannot see it working, as his value and training cost arent really correlated and i am sure the tribunal will see it that way. What I am saying is, this is only reason i can see for Spurs to have made this bid. A pretty clumsy collusion by Burnley and Spurs to get more cash from Pool which I will be extremely surprised if it works
