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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by Hoddle is a god, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. Stan

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    What about Dalglish?
     
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    <laugh> I wouldn't have minded Kenny back, never wanted him sacked. He has won English leagues with two different top flight clubs, even Jose and Fergie haven't done that <whistle>
     
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  3. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    Same with Real but they still sacked Carlo and got loser Rafa in.

    I wonder how long he will take to destroy Real and its squad.

    Wherever he goes he leaves the club in a right mess, look at the state he left Liverpool and Inter in playerwise.

    He did not even attempt to sort Chelsea's squad out... Seeking his own personal glory and leaving a mess for the next man to clear up
     
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    I've already asked that question re Real, who was available. You are just rehashing my question EC.

    One one hand you have you saying Inter had a good side and Rafa wrecked it and your fellow supporter BoddyD saying Inter had an unfancied squad, which is it?

    This is completely uninformative unsupported generalising cack and you know it. Do you actually know anything about his time at those clubs? No you don't, if you pretend you do I will just put you on ignore from this point onwards EC, c'mon ffs <laugh>

    Rafa left Liverpool in better nick than he found it despite HnG and achieved two CL finals and other pots and ensured CL football for most of his time there in a league with Chelsea money bags City moneybags and United with Fergie. Your views are so one dimensional, I wont pretend to even know the situation at inter.|


    EDIT: Also, Rafa following on from Jose, two entirely different styles of football. It was never going to be an easy transition either way even if Rafa is not as good as Jose.
     
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  5. CFC: Champs £launderx17

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    Try telling Roy or Leonardo that.

    Rafa spent big at Napoli with Cavani cash and some. And has left them with an unbalanced side in Europa League.

    He managed to lose his CL qualifier this season and has just bottled a CL spot again, losing 2-4 against Lazio to take Napoli into EL.

    Re threatening to put me on ignore: Someone can't handle criticism of Rafa, or is scared of how he may do at Real?
     
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  6. I really do think 'Pool missed an opportunity in not going for Big Sam.
     
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    Personally, I thought Pool made a big mistake in sacking Benitez. O.k. Mr personality he ain't, but he got results and no subsequent manager has come close to achieving what he did. I just think his big fault is man management skills, or lack of.
     
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    Don't mis interpret what i said. I think I've said the side Inter had when they won the champs league was a weak side when comparing them to all the champions league sides. With respect to the Italian league which was a lot weaker back then that it is now, that squad is one of the best ones.

    My main gripe was you calling that Porto side good. That Porto side was bang average when compared to the european powerhouses.
     
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    That Inter side was an shambles of OAPs with no plan for the future. Jose jumped because he used them up into old age and the only way was down. There's a reason they never won anything again and subsequently collapsed. And it's not 3 months of FSW.
     
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    A better manager would have gone another decent season out of them
     
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  11. Benitez was a shambles in his last full term with 'Pool, and left the owners no option but to sack him. If 'Pool have learned nothing else, it's that you must never go back to what failed in the past. Sure, Benitez did brilliantly with a very ungrateful Chelsea side (and he was only there in a vain attempt to get Torres playing half-decent so Mad Dog could make back something of the £70 million he spunked away on him), but Chelsea were (and remain) and far better side than 'Pool. Benitez was a good manager for 'Pool when they had a half-decent side, but when they began to lose all of their best players and replace them with the mediocrity we see now, Benitez was no where near as effective.

    As I say, I think they missed a trick in letting Big Sam slip through their fingers.
     
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    A large paragragh to prove you have no clue about the actual sport, clubs and how they are run. Well done, as if there isn't enough ammo to destroy you on this website already<laugh>


    "Last full term". What is that supposed to mean? his last season? Cherry picking are we?

    He managed a Champions League trophy, as awful a manager as he is and another final 2 years later, remind me how many epicly talented Spuds managers have got you to the CL final? Or even into the top 3 in the PL? <laugh>
     
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  13. Oh, come off it, Sisu! Benitez was a mess in his last season at 'Pool, and you know it! He also became incredibly arsey with the media, and it was clear from his increasingly blotchy face that he was burnt out. He did okay for the Chavs, but they were never going to take to him, no matter what he did for them.

    I really do not believe that it would be wise to try to get him back at 'Pool, not with the squad you've got. I think he'd do okay at United or £ity (or Arsenal, when they eventually sack Wenger) - even at Spurs - because those clubs have the depth in quality that Benitez could work with.
     
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    SAF did for Rafa with his mind games. Mentally weak. Would Real Madrid appoint Keegan?
     
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    I'd love it if they did that, I'd love it<whistle>
     
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    What do you know HIAG you support Spurs. H&G nearly put the club under while Benitez was there. Are you kidding me. We got Torres and had a decent squad, that was the time to go out and get some real quality, haivng thumped Real Madrid 5 0 over two legs in the CL and the like, smashing United 4 1 at OT. That was the time to spend some cash and we didn't because Benitez wasn't given the kind of funds needed for big signings to challenge United and Chelsea. There was no way around that fact.

    Benitez had money but he had to fill a lot of slots with it, he didn't have money to spend 40m on a player and the wages, he was forced to spread it around on potentially good players, and that turned out bollocks. He has a big flaw though, man management. He did a good job with the academy too.

    After winning two La Ligas he had the same issue with Valencia's owners. Tightened purse strings.

    He only took us to two CL finals, and won one of them, 2 finals in 3 years, and pissing Jose off to boot in that time. Had an average finishing spot of 4th, mostly 3rd spot 2nd once, 4th, and 5th and a 7th finish in him time, the latter coming at the end.

    He's a decent manager, has had a lot of success. Compare him to who? Arry? in fact compare him to 99.something of PL managers ever and he's won more, do you think Wenger is good? Rafa has won more even though Wenger has had a consistent spell at Arsenal for donkeys.

    Only if you are putting Rafa up against the likes of Jose Fergie Ancelotti and the few others like them does he look less but over all he's done well.

    You don't know **** about Benitez or his career and you know it woman.:D
     
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    The Fat Spanish waiter had become a total disaster by the time he left Anfield, anyone saying otherwise is rehashing history.

    He took a costly squad who'd finished 2nd the previous season down to 7th, and had bought yet more over priced **** like Aquilani, he was rightly sacked as a result
     
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    How can anyone claim that Benitez didn't have funds to work with when he was King of the Dippers? He spent £250million!
     
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  19. Benitez was in free-fall by the time he was sacked at 'Pool.

    It's part of the delusional make-up of Mousers that they don't remember that.
     
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  20. NEWS ALERT!!!

    'Pool snap up super star striker!

    From which mighty club has 'Pool been on the raid, you all ask?

    Real? PSG? Spurs?

    No.

    Burnley.

    <doh>
     
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