http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/33016884 Diamond League: Justin Gatlin wins 100m in new Rome record American Justin Gatlin beat Usain Bolt's Rome Diamond League record with a superb performance in the 100m. The 33-year-old surged clear of the field to win in 9.75 seconds - the seventh-fastest time in history - eclipsing Bolt's 9.76 set in 2012. Gatlin, who has served two doping bans, ran a 9.74 in the opening Diamond League meeting of the year last month. Olympic champion Sally Pearson suffered a wrist injury as a result of a fall in the women's 100m hurdles. The 28-year-old Australian was one of three fallers in the race, won by USA's Sharika Nelvis in 12.52 seconds, with Briton Tiffany Porter third in 12.69. Gatlin insisted he had not yet turned his attention to his battle with Bolt at the World Championships in Beijing in August. ......................... Does anyone else feel absolutely sick about this stuff... Gatlin is an ex olympic and world champion found guiltyof doping not once but tiwce at 33 he is setting PB at 9.74 even faster than his WR in 2005. Nobody on the planet expects bolt to get close to 9.578 again as he is getting older. Gatlin won his gold in 2004 in athen AFTER being guilty of doping in 2001. in 2005 he won his golds in wolrds at 1 and 200m and then in 2006 was AGAIN found guilty of doping. The fact that we found a clean worlds fastest man (we all think looking at him) in BOlt and as he ages (he is 28 and prob past his best) and now athletics is allowing a guy who is at best seriously dodgy to compete at 33 and set a time that is best of the year is SICK. If you look at the list of world record holders 9.835 Donovan Bailey 9.79 Maurice Greene 9.78 Tim Montgomery 9.768 Asafa Powell 9.766 Justin Gatlin 9.763 Asafa Powell 9.74 Asafa Powell 9.72 Usain Bolt 9.683 9.58 Every single one bar Bolt has been caught doping... every one. And the sport lets gatlin set 9.74 and nobody is saying HANG THE F ON HERE!
At 33? Doping nope, crystal meth, the guy must have been as high as a kite. There is no way anyone should be allowed compete if they have been caught TWICE it's nuts.
He's just got a more sophisticated doping programme that's well ahead of any testing the IOC can do on him. Look up Panorama on BBC iPlayer, quite a good episode on there about doping right now. Guy - pretty serious amateur runner/cyclist - starts taking EPO. His VO2 Max goes up from mid-50s to mid-late 60s which is unheard of and that's just by injecting dope that's been bought off the internet from China and come packaged in cardboard and bin bags labeled as 'mobile phone cases'. He also plateaus at the right time so that when he goes for them to test him they can't tell he's been injecting. So imagine what an experienced doctor with all the latest drugs and tech at his disposal can do with a pro athlete.
It's all a massive ****ing lie basically. Sport, especially endurance sports. Doped to the gills the lot of them. People need to wake the F up. Having said that if it's 'athletes who dope vs athletes who dope' the athletic performance is still impressive but artificially enhanced, doesn't mean they're not fit and that
i think basically when a guy is 23 and sets a WR after being found a doper at 18? and then is found to have doped at 24... then 10 years later runs at 33 a time 0.02 seconds slower than his best time... supposition would say probably on drugs. Well......
Have heard from a couple of tennis coaches who played pro in the 80s that players were using uppers before matches. Agassi was on all kinds of concoctions as well as he now freely admits. Bit more sophisticated now but basically the same right??
Doping isn't always about drugs in sport though is it. Blood doping is the 'clever' way they try and get around it. Enhancing performance not with drugs but processes involving removing blood, freezing it and then putting it back in the body to raise red cell count.
It's to do with increasing VO2 max mate, which is to do with the efficiency with which the body can absorb oxygen into the red blood cells and distribute that to the vital organs therefore increasing aerobic and anaerobic performance and limits. The more red blood cells in the blood the more oxygen that can be absorbed and delivered to the body and the better the athletic performance. There are different ways of achieving this. Infamously Lance Armstrong used what they call blood bags - these are as you can imagine bags of pre doped blood with preternaturally high levels of red blood cells present due to the presence of EPO. They're transported in cooler bags and delivered to the athlete intravenously as required. To offset this increase in the red blood cell count athletes often inject blood plasma to basically level out the blood and mask the increased presence of the red blood cells in the results of drug tests. The other way of doing it is just by raising the red blood cell count within the blood in the body by directly injecting EPO, using patches, creams, gels or tablets. So EPO increases the endurance and aerobic/anaerobic performance. Athletes can supplement this with things like HGH, testosterone and corticosteroids. These do things like encourage lean muscle mass growth and make muscle stronger, encourage recovery of damaged / tired muscle tissue, increase energy levels, reduce swelling and inflammation, adjust the metabolism for weight loss or gain. These also generally promote greater endurance given their positive effects on the human body. Some athletes want better endurance - distance runners and road cyclists for example, and some athletes just want pure power - sprinters, swimmers and weightlifters for example. So doping athletes vary the type and amount of drugs they take depending on the desired kind of performance.
I want them all to get doped up more and more until someone can do it in 5 seconds, that's something I'd like to see.
Hell yeah!! Just let em take whatever they want. It's what they're doing anyway but in a cautious way. Make it legal and the norm and eventually superheroes will be real.
I don't know if we're saying the same thing or not. What I understand about blood doping is basically using stored blood - your own or a donor match - put back in the body involving no drugs at all, which is how it can go undetected. EPO's, HBOC's and PFC's all involve injections.
That's one technique yes - blood bags. Good for avoiding testing because you administer the blood as and when needed, before races or events usually and you're not carrying the evidence directly in your body all the time. But not all athletes do it that way. Some prefer to just manipulate the blood in the body and taper the levels of EPO/red blood cells so they have higher levels for competition and lower levels when testing comes around to avoid being caught. With blood testing they're not testing for the presence of a drug necessarily, especially for blood doping with EPO, what they look at nowadays is an athlete's 'blood profile' which is self-explanatory, it's the make-up / composition of the blood in that person's body. The testers are looking for abnormalities in the blood - i.e. a higher amount of red blood cells and haemoglobin - from an athlete's usual profile. Blood is made up of separate things, it's not just 'blood'. It's composed from plasma, red blood cells, white blood cells and platelets. Red blood cells are what are central to doping and testing as they carry oxygen around the body in the circulatory system.
I'd like to see them all smoke a massive joint and sink 4 Kestrel Super before the hurdles, javelin, pole vault and hammer That would be a proper challenge and top, top entertainment.
and they all drop dead at 30 sure... thats a great thing when your kid say... hmm i'd like to try this out.. you want to bury yours? This stuff i deadly... they all play a deadly game. The womens' 100m record is 10.49s set by Florence Griffith-Joyne in 1988 and she dropped dead at 38 years old... officailly it was a seizure from epilepsy.. in reality it was the amount of dope taken.. the wolrd knows it but conveniently ignores it and leaves said records intact. 1988... long time ago for naturl progression to not have over taken this number... and the later challenger marion jones finally admitted her doping and she never even got close. I'd perfer they win clean and live long.... anyway.. when you look at this you have to say.... hmmm.. bolt is he the only clean on or the one not caught like lance armstrong was. and it taints bolt doesn't it. Its just sad. The whole sport should be out to catch gatlin ASAP
Nobody is clean. That's the key point. They all dope. Every sport. At the professional level. Everyone is on something. If you think or continue to believe otherwise you're living under a veil of naivety
