Coming from a mug punter who's form analysis consists of looking down the page, and betting blindly on Mullins and Walsh every race
Here’s a Derby stat to end all Derby stats. It is 48 years since the horse emerging from the highest numbered stall won the race. This years highest numerically berthed beast??? From, stall number 12, it’s Success days.
I was very wrong about Zawraq then wasn't I Looks a glorified handicap now. How short will this jolly get now?! Can see him going off the same price as Aussie last year
There are twelve declared at the final stage for the 2015 Epsom Derby as follows: Carbon Dating – John Patrick Shanahan (Ronan Whelan) Elm Park – Andrew Balding (Andrea Atzeni) Epicuris – Criquette Head-Maarek (Thierry Thulliez) Giovanni Canaletto – Aidan O’Brien (Ryan Moore) Golden Horn – John Gosden (Frankie Dettori) Hans Holbein – Aidan O’Brien (Seamie Heffernan) Jack Hobbs – John Gosden (William Buick) Kilimanjaro – Aidan O’Brien (Joseph O’Brien) Moheet – Richard Hannon (Pat Dobbs) Rogue Runner – Andreas Wohler (Oisin Murphy) Storm The Stars – William Haggas (Pat Cosgrave) Success Days – Ken Condon (Shane Foley) The going at Epsom is reported as Good (going stick 7.2) and 2mm of watering has been applied on the home straight. For those interested in the Coronation Cup, the final declarations are as follows: Ayrad – Roger Varian (Andrea Atzeni) Flintshire – Andre Fabre (Maxime Guyon) Pether’s Moon – Richard Hannon (Pat Dobbs) Romsdal – John Gosden (William Buick) Sheikhzayedroad – David Simcock (Martin Lane) Dolniya – Alain De Royer Dupre (Christophe Soumillon)
With all that's going on in the Derby market, I've had a change of heart. Hans holbeins gonna need some juice in the ground and I don't fancy the jockey booking. So it's storm the stars for me.no ride for the two best jocks round Epsom , Crowley and fallon. This Derby is looking piss poor.
I'm starting to lean towards Kilimanjaro from a value perspective. 20/1 for the Lingfield Derby Trial winner with the trainer's son on board looks very generous. Admittedly he would need to take a big step forward form-wise but he wouldn't be the first Ballydoyle inmate to do so.
Loving the banter on this thread - just like the old 606 days. Well done chaps! As others have said it seems pretty uninspiring this year. I can't be having the principles at the quoted prices so am on Kilimanjairo. Didn't do a lot wrong in his trial and I can't find anything that really jumps out this year so I'd rather take an each way punt on a 20/1 shout
Yep. This is the ****tiest Derby I can recall since Shergar's Derby (without Shergar). At least there was one good horse in that race which made it a cast iron certainty. I even predicted the record winning distance for that one. This one, I haven't a clue. We have stayers that are slow, horses that have form on soft or heavy, a class 10f horse. Everything except what makes a good Derby winner. I might not even bother to watch it, it's so bad.
Yes. I just thought it was beyond bizarre that we both posted that we were leaning to him at exactly the same time!
