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How this man made c(lie)mate change fraud can kill people
This policy is resulting in about 190,000 deaths per year
Biofuels
http://www.jpands.org/vol16no1/goklany.pdf

Also, biofuels causing food prices to go up a lot and not much else benefit at all. Pushing people into deeper poverty and resulting deaths.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/jul/03/biofuels.usa

So apart from paying your carbon tax as well as extra on your energy bills to subsidise renewable, you also get to pay higher food prices.

 

Lord Monckton destroys the IPCC and especially John Cook's 97% fraud. Destroys! and proves the IPCC use the media for propaganda, most of the funding you provide is used to fool you into believing this hoax
Apparently the 97% consensus thing fits the legal definition of fraud

Also quite typical of how the internet is going, Monckton did some good work and put it into a video, the video got 2, 7 million hits in no time at all.
What happened? Well someone went and created a load of garbage links with the same name and paid a quarter of a million per link to get them above Moncktons video in search results.

Yes, the IPCC spent millions of $$ trying to stop Monckton's work being seen.

 

Isn't Lord Monkton the guy who was bollocked for essentially pretending was a member of house of lords and had a cure for aids?

Not saying he is wrong in his views just checking out if it is the same guy?

 

One and the same, he's a ****ing moron.

This is the same man who claimed people should be tested for HIV every month and those who test positive should be segregated ............a Tory hereditary peer and a complete ****wit

About as credible as the man who's quoting him.

 

Sounds fun, might have a look at his stuff then.

 

How the IPCC are cooking the temp data. Homogenisation, which is algorithms that the data is run through when the environment around the temperature gathering station changes, so if the temp collecting station was moved near an airport, homogenisation algorithms would be used to subtract the extra heat generated by the warming of the airport runway and buildings, or if a new building was built near a temperature reading station this process would also be used.

But.. in Australia and South America the IPCC have been homogenising data through algorithms when the station environments haven't changed in decades, some stations in Australia have shown cooling trends and the station's locale has not changed since the 1940s yet they use these algorithms to "remove warming" yet somehow a cooling trend in the data collected comes out the backside of these algorithms as a warming trend ?!. They have taken data showing a cooling trend and run it through homogenisation algorithms and come up with warming trends.

This is fraud. Complete fraud. Caught again lying and cheating the data.

Here is the data, before and after "homogenisation" which is a process of "removing" excess temperature, somehow this process of removing anomalous urban heat with their algorithms caused the warming to increase, huh? Seems legit.

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NASA incorproates this data into their own data set and then gives it to the IPCC.


24 lies in 4 minutes by "climate scientist"

#EpicFraud

 

Dr Heidi Cullen IPCC climate liar.
Heat is "hiding at the bottom of the ocean"
When asked for data sets, ignored, when shown climate trends she says "Lets look at spefic weather in certain places" a complete reversal of the IPCC argument that weather is not climate, these fools just tie themselves in knots with lies

This fraud is gonnna cos 2 trillion soon, the IPCC wants to set up 1000 bureaucracies globally to "control" what we do. That's from their own "decisions" paper.

 

"Climate change denier re education camp 101" promotional propaganda video There are so many lies in this it beggars belief.

"join us now in denial 101x"

 

Can we get onto another conspiratorial science topic now. This is SO ****ing boring

 

Yeah you're probably right.

I will point out that Gavin Schmidt of NASA the IPCC nut, said 2014 was the warmest year on record, a scientific claim. But when you go check out the NASA docs, the margin of error with equipment on GISS means they can only be 35% certain the data is correct, yet that is published by the media almost nowhere.

I'll leave it now though, it is clearly a fraud. One just has to open one's eyes. Life is carbon based and these nuts are teaching kids that carbon is a poison pollutant.

 

There's a topic. Are we alone in this universe, or is there other life out there, but not, of course, as we know it

 

Christopher Walter Monckton, the third Viscount Monckton of Brenchely, is a British politician affiliated with the UK Independence Party. He was a former advisor to UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and was a “special advisor to Thatcher's Downing Street policy unit” in the 1980s.
Monckton's first claim to fame was his creation of the “eternity puzzle,” a board game that Monckton believed was so challenging that he offered 1 million euros to the first person to solve it. To his surprise, the eternity puzzle was solved in 16 months.
While Monckton's educational background is in journalism, he has recently been credited by many think tanks as an expert in the field of global warming. [2]
For example, his profile on the Science and Public Policy Institute (SPPI) states: [3]
“His [Monckton's] contribution to the IPCC's Fourth Assessment Report in 2007 - the correction of a table inserted by IPCC bureaucrats that had overstated tenfold the observed contribution of the Greenland and West Antarctic ice sheets to sea-level rise - earned him the status of Nobel Peace Laureate. His Nobel prize pin, made of gold recovered from a physics experiment, was presented to him by the Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Rochester, New York, USA.”
Monckton later conceded that claiming to be a Nobel Peace Laureate was “a joke, a joke” and “never meant to be taken seriously.” But the above claim remains on the SPPI website to this day (as of Oct, 2011).


The guy seems to be almost as big a fraud as #rodgersthefraud

 

There was an interesting debate years ago between Carl Sagan and Ernst Mayr on that subject of intelligent life on other planets.
Sagan argued the averages, with so many planets out there that life most likely exists and a % of that could be intelligent. Ernst Mayr made an interesting argument and backed it with some data that the higher the intelligence the less successful a species is, even us humans were pretty sparse until recent times, which is just the blink of an eye in biological history timescale terms.
Mayr argued that intelligence is a lethal mutation. When you look at the repeated threats of nuclear war, war in general and such other destructive things, he kinda had a point.

 

How about a higher level of intellegence nullifies any threat , so it would mean that intellegent life would prosper. Without medical advances it could be possible to say that humans would be extinct. this however ignores the war and threat from within relegion and ignorance brings, intellegent life would be above this and not want to kill 'rivals' so in my view we are still developing

 

The key to that argument is that ant civilisation would have to go through the possibility of total annihilation on the road to evolving past it and finding another way forward.

 

Yet history shows that civilisation repeatedly destroys its self over and over and we are on that same path. Civilisation is besides the point, the core argument is the biological entity and it's intelligence level.

To clarify, take beetles, they do very well, they have an ecological niche, unlike bacteria which is successful because it mutates quickly.

Jellyfish have an ecological niche, have no brain and have been about 650 milion years.

If Beetles obtained intelligence, it is most likely they would evolve out of their ecological niche and therefor become more at risk from their own intelligence.

This holds true with humans, our intelligence has allowed us to multiply beyond the ecological support, like cities for example, where we are dependent on survival on imports. Stop the imports for whatever reason and people will die en amsse. Only because of stability factors have we not seen mass death due to our own imbalance with the ecology that supports us. 2 weird winters in the US that kills crops is enough to kill millions around the planet within a year. That's just one way in which our intelligence puts us at risk, another would be the development of weapons to kill each other.

Granted there are mitigating factors to our intelligence in order to help us survive, but lets be honest where are they? The majority of research funding in the world is by far military research. Humans eh The rest is commercial R&D and the others are left scrouging for disease research funding, cancer and so on. The ALS ice bucket challenge is a perfect example. We as a civilisation are proving Mayr right as things stand over the last 100 years. Our intelligence gives power to our destructive instincts. We actually need to evolve, not socially but physically, we are still so primitive but we like to think we are not.

If humans or similar life did come about on other planets it is entirely reasonable to suspect they wiped themselves out in one way or another. I think that was Mayr's point. We've come so close to nuclear war 3 or 4 times now, and we are in a similar situation now given Israel has just threatened Iran with Nukes. There is no evolving from that, it's total annihilation.

Civilisation simply crumbles when your three meals a day is threatened We resolve to the primitive base creatures we really are, literally overnight.

It is possible primitive instincts and intelligence are a lethal combination.

 

What a crock of ****

What set humans apart was opposable thumbs, everything stems back to that development in the genetic code.

You're one eyed thinking only allows you to see human development in terms of its present self. Humans are evolving and at a rapid rate, the thought process that sees them as the ultimate in genetic evolution is pathetically flawed, and with that evolution they will always carry the ability to survive the idiocy of themselves and their environmental changes.

 

You used a link to wiki after everything you said about people who quote it

 

Opposable thumbs have nothing to do with intelligence, put opposable thumbs on a jellyfish and leave them 100,000 years and see how they get on.
You simple ****

 

I wouldn't mind, he actually backed me up.
"Christopher Walter Monckton, the third Viscount Monckton of Brenchely, is a British politician affiliated with the UK Independence Party. He was a former advisor to UK Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and was a “special advisor to Thatcher's Downing Street policy unit” in the 1980s."

It is well known that Thatcher started the global warming fraud and Monckton knows this he was Thatcher's science officer after all. He knows that this fallacy was hijacked by left leaning militant activists and used to gain power and money. If you are a climate scientist now, your career will be stillborn if you look to study alternate theories about CO2 and AGW.

For all the talk of money in the skeptic camp, their funding is a mere fraction of the funding and support the climate hoax gets. Also worth nothing, the IPCC use terms like "extemely likely" humans have caused most global warming, since when is "extremely likely" empirical science? When the media bangs on about this they do not say "extremely likely" do they. Furthermore, the IPCC said themsleves there is no scientific link between AGW and extreme weather events and that hasn't stopped every tom dick and harry claiming this in the hsyteria.

When it rains it's global warming, when it snows, it's also global warming, when it's hot it's global warming. Everything now is caused by global warming

They are teaching kids now that CO2 is a pollutant, submarines have a CO2 level of 2000ppm and those guys stay down there for weeks or months at a time. Pollutant my arse

Lets not forget, the IPCC are now claiming that the extra temp missing for the last 17 years is "hiding in the oceans" yet oceanic Buoys do not show this hidden heat, apparently it is hidden at the bottom of the ocean. Can't make this **** up. It's like invoking Dark Matter when your maths dont add up in astrophysics. Just make any old **** up.

Sure even the greenpeace founder quit after two years. He quit because Nazis took over the movement, he said he and his co founders were just environmentalists, they were not political, so when these nuts took over greenpeace politically they couldn't stop them so they left.
The Sierra club actually takes massive funding from Natural gas companies. There are many "environmental" groups that take money from oil companies. Irony