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Coming second last year was a fluke ???

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Nov 4, 2014.

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Second last year was a fluke?

Poll closed Oct 30, 2015.
  1. Fluke?

    11.6%
  2. Suarez was the key last year?

    62.8%
  3. Our summer signing were rubbish?.

    25.6%
  4. Our new players are yet to gel?.

    11.6%
  5. We miss Daniel Sturridge?.

    20.9%
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  1. redconn

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    City scored more goals than us - and they scored over a hundred goals

    That's why they won the title
     
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  2. Tobes

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    <laugh>

    One more goal scored and you'd have still conceded 13 more than the side that won the title..........

    Using your skewed logic if you score the most you win the league - wrong. It's GD that is the prime measure i.e. the ratio between scored and conceded.
     
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  3. jaffaSlot

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    It was a fluke, but due to a great number of factors.

    Suarez was settled, coming into his prime and Rodgers got the team to focus on his strengths.
    We had only the premier league to focus on. No Europe and woeful in the cups.
    Utd changed manager, Ferguson at that and brought in Moyes.
    Chavs changed manager back to Jose, who was working hard all season to make his team boring again and they didn't perform
    Arsenal finish 4th (surprise 3rd that season), so once you get above them they aren't an issue.
     
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  4. Peej

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    Whop had the better GD?
     
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  5. redconn

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    2014 - Top Scorers - City, Champions - City
    2013 - Top Scorers - United, Champions - United
    2012 - Top Scorers - City, Champions - City
    2011- Top Scorers - United, Champions - United
    2010 - Top Scorers - Chelsea, Champions - Chelsea

    It's a cliche and anomaly that defence wins titles. Maybe cups sometimes, but not titles.
     
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  6. Tobes

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    Chelsea won the title with 73 goals this season, 28 less than you scored the previous one.

    It doesn't matter a toss how many you score, it's the GD that's the key measure.

    The fact that the best side usually wins the league and as the best side would normally score the most goals is merely a side issue to the fact that they're the best overall TEAM.
     
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  7. redconn

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    we lost out on the title to United with a much better GD

    stats
     
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  8. Bodinki

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    So again you are fixating on one game that you needed one goal in, in order to win the title.
    Well I could just as easily say that if you had been able to defend, you may have been far enough ahead by that game, to not NEED to score that goal.
    If the 2-2 home draw against Villa had been a 2-0 or 2-1 win, or if the 3-3 against Palace had been a 3-2 or 3-1 win. Or the countless other games you dropped points in by conceding goals, the 3-1 loss at Hull for example, if that had finished 1-1 and so forth......
     
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  9. redconn

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    and City had a better GD than Chelsea this year

    stats going against you
     
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  10. Bodinki

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    So that one goal less than City that you scored.
    Insert it into any game you played that season and change the result accordingly.
    Have you won the title? No.....you have finished on equal points to City, but they beat you....ON GOAL DIFFERENCE, because you conceded more goal than them.
     
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  11. Tobes

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    That season you also scored 9 more goals than them

    Hoisted by your own petard <laugh>

    Game, set and match.
     
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  12. redconn

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    you're pointing out anomalies

    look back over time and the most common denominator is the top goalscorers win most often. GD is second, defence least often.

    game, set, match, and tournament
     
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  13. redconn

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    I realise you don't like the answer. But facts are facts.
     
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  14. Bodinki

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    Only because the top goalscorers are usually the best team in the league hence they don't leak goals like a sieve at the other end. <doh>
    How are they anomalies ffs?
    You shipped 50 goals over the season, yes you conceded a lot in games where you won 6-3 and 5-2 etc
    But you also conceded goals in games in which you dropped points, 3-3 Palace. 3-1 Hull, 2-1 Chelsea at SB, 2-1 City at the Etihad.
    Thats a lot of results that were "anomalous".
     
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  15. Germlands Nozzer

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    We also scored goals in all the games we won. <ok>

    <whistle>
     
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  16. redconn

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    Did we concede a goal in matches we dropped points in ?

    Really, I never knew that phenomenon occurred. You learn something new every day.
     
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    Could have been 0-0 draws to be fair.
     
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  18. Tobes

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    What and a club having a better GD than the Champions ins't an anomaly? <laugh>

    Listen mate, if you truly believe that lack of goals scored cost you the title last season, then you're off your tits.
     
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  19. Peej

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    Yeah, its all about the best goal difference

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32959227

    Stats are never wrong....Unless it doesn't fit your agenda like
     
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  20. You win the league by winning games. You win games by scoring goals. Aka you win the league by scoring goals.

    You don't necessarily win games by keeping clean sheets. You avoid losing games that way. Plus its boring as hell to watch!

    Realistically, you want to be able to do both. But, if you can only chose one or the other, you're better off being able to score than defend.
     
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