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The Breakfast Debate

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  1. OLOF

    OLOF Well-Known Member

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    I sup six pints between pick ups......












    I'm an ambulance driver<ale><ale><ale><ale><ale><ale>:emoticon-0175-drunk
     
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  2. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Agree with you. Six pints in six hours. That's not even a drink. That's like stretching before exercise :emoticon-0165-muscl
     
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  3. Whitejock

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    Good point, well made!
     
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  4. esteponawhite

    esteponawhite Well-Known Member

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    Cellino is a nutter,yes,but
    If you start a job as recriutmant in may and are on holiday,surely that is wrong!
    A lot of players have been released,although under contract till end of june,
    We qllways ask for transfer deals to be done early,and this guy fecks off on holiday,
    Take yer hols in september ffs,do your job,maybe cellino was right on this one,
    Allready been slated for saying the same on ja so feel free <laugh>
    Six pints,breakfast before kick off surely?
     
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  5. Josh-LUFC

    Josh-LUFC Well-Known Member

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    Hmm, not that I like siding with Cellino but in this case I think this is being made to be way worse than it is because everyone hates him and is jumping on the bandwagon.

    Firstly it appears he wasn't even properly employed, rather this is who Pearson wanted to employ and still required Cellino's signature to confirm it, he simply didn't confirm it. Thats not really a sacking, its him not getting a job he thought he would.

    Secondly, its the busiest period for someone in his job. What the hell is he doing booking a holiday during this time when he is looking for a new job, thats a weird decision from Head.
     
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  6. ristac

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    Head had an agreement with Pearson, the holiday is 1 week, he will already have a list of targets and players in mind, he might have already given that list to Pearson, he might have offered to cancel the holiday and told not to by Pearson as he has a busy time ahead, "go on holiday, Cellino has to sign the contract and I am not seeing him till Wednesday"... He might have been told we won't be signing any players until mid June the point is we just don't know....

    What we do know is Pearson was employed to bring stability, Pearson agreed with Head the terms and the holiday, Cellino then undermined Pearson tearing up the contract. Where does that leave Pearson?

    Is this week that important? We are over half way through it, the guys holiday finishes in 2 days. How long will it take to appoint another head of recruitment, will we actually sign a player in the next 14 days?

    If Cellino can tear up a contract that Pearson drew up he would do the same and not like the players Head intends to find. Open your eyes people, these behind the scenes appointments mean nothing to Cellino, everything has to go through him and it will be Cellino deciding who we sign and play.

    Sometime this year expect them all gone and a Cellino interview along the lines of "What was I paying these people to do"...
     
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  7. ellandback

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    He didn't tell me...
     
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  8. leeds60

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    I for one will back Cellino over the sacking of Head .He went for the job knowing full well that we have to hit the ground running because as everyone as said on here we leave it to the last minute and get dregs


    .So Head has been on gardening leave for the past 6 months why does he suddenly want to go on holiday he's had 6 months to do that he's wanted now to sort out our incoming new players .If he wants a holiday go in September when the window is closed not in May June.If he wanted the job he could and should have cancelled his holidays for a future date after consulting Cellino .No I would have done exactly what Cellino did he was disrespectful to the club we don't want him get someone who wants the job
     
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  9. ristac

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  10. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Cant help feeling this is the sort of crap well be debating all summer. The ones who got away, who was sacked and why and were his feelings hurt etc. Ill bet there wont be one debate about our new 2m pound signing and how we fought off several clubs for his signature
     
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  11. Infidel

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    Este <ok> I bought a pub a good number of years ago and i started a LUFC supporters club, we made contact with some Irish lads from Louth & Donegal (usually about 6 would travel) and they used to come to the pub, they knew people in the area who used to put them up.........drink was an understatement, on guy called Frank who was over 6ft, about 18 st of bone and muscle came in on Sunday lunch, we used to chat about the match and one of his mates whispered for me to take count of how many pints of cider he puts away, that afternoon he did 17 pints, went back to his friends house had some grub, came back ffs about an hour and half later and did another 14 pints, i could not beleive it, 31 ****ing pints of easy rider in a day, some going.
     
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  12. kiwi

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    The holiday was booked in advance - he has probably has children and was taking advantage of the half term break to go on holiday with his family. That's human. Pearson will have been aware of the situation and was obviously okay with it, it's only Cellino throwing his toys out of his pram again because he wants everything now and can't possibly wait.

    Anyone backing Cellino because Head was 'away for the most important part of the season' needs to step back and think of him as a human being and not as part of the footballing machinery. He's well within his rights to be on holiday. He didn't take the job and then book it - he's had it planned for a while. Also the transfer window doesn't even open officially until the 1st July, and I suspect he's had a list of suitable players drawn up for the scouting he's done for other clubs over the past few months and years. One week is not going to be the difference between promotion and play offs, play offs and mid-table security, or mid-table security or relegation. Pearson had the man he wanted, and Cellino threw a tantrum again. If I was Pearson I'd walk in protest now.
     
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  13. kiwi

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    The window isn't even open in May and June, so your point is irrelevant. He has no obligation to cancel his holidays providing it's cleared by his future employers (clearly Pearson thought it was fine), and as for the 'he's had 6 months to go on holiday' remark, it's half term. Maybe he wants to go away with his family and children? He is a human being, he's well within his rights to book a holiday.
     
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  14. Chippy / Glory

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    It always is.....
     
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  15. ristac

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    Spot on Kiwi, I actually forgot the transfer window isn't open yet so for those saying it is a bad time to go on holiday why is it? Oh and another thing, most players take their holidays now as well before getting ready for pre-season.

    Although, in England, the transfer window formally opens on 1 July, transfers between clubs in the same association can take place as soon as the last competitive fixtures for the season have been played. However, many transfers will not be completed until 1 July because many players' contracts expire on 30 June.
     
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  16. Eireleeds1

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    A hell of a lot of the background work on transfers is done long before windows open. Chelsea and scum have deals done already so Mr Head should have been around and not on holidays
     
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  17. kiwi

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    I can't be 100% sure but I don't think Head would have anything to do with player contracts, so all he would do is scout the players - he's scouted all season, I have no doubt that he's given a list of players to Pearson/Cellino already. Given it's the end of the season, I don't see how he can do much more scouting...
     
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  18. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    I've a feeling as much scouting is done on YouTube as travelling to games these days. Maybe I'm just being cynical
     
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    He isn't new to the job, he probably has a list of appropriate players, bottom line is Pearson agreed it, Cellino scuppered it. Pearson might well be sitting there wondering what his job actually is... How many more times will Cellino undermine Pearson before he walks...

    I have to agree with Kiwi again, he is a scout, he suggests players, the season has finished, how much more scouting can he do when there are no games going on and players are on holiday too.

    Look at it another way (or if it was the other way around), if a news report came out slamming Cellino for being willing to wait another couple of days to get the right man and people on here said Cellino was wrong to wait, he should move on to the next candidate the Cellino backers would be saying the guy is entitled to a holiday, it is half term for the kids, we can't sign anyone yet, contracts don't end until 30th June.....

    Like I said previously, lets see who we actually sign during June, if we don't sign anyone then surely this guy being on holiday mattered not one bit.
     
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  20. Leedsoflondon

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    Sorry 60, have to disagree. I'm presuming his holiday has been booked for some time, like the rest of us do. Three weeks ago Pearson wasn't even here and there was no 'head of recruitment' post in the offing. Once the club has decided on the new structure I'm guessing (I admit) that Pearson has approached him, I certainly didn't see any post advertised. Surely the contract would include a start date. Just strikes me this is Cellino not letting people he employs to get on with the jobs he pays them for. Ironic though that we talk about being left with the dregs when all I've seen is people debate players released by their clubs. First big decision Pearson takes and a few days later Cellino withdraws the offer in a fit of pique. This becoming quite a regular occurrence these days.
     
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