Is Brendan Rodgers going to take us forward???

There are a few Rodgers's supporters who will say he is a good attacking coach but I'm not convinced.

Looking at the attack this season, losing 1 player should not have had such an impact if the attack coaching was top class.

 

I've no issues with FSG

 

He was also in charge at a time when Man City were a nothing club so there were no challenges to the top four bar Everton in the first season (a race we lost) and a poisoned Spurs team.

 

But if we were set up correctly, we had little challenges this season.

Spurs and Soton were just as inconsistent, and we gifted Man United 4th.

Arsenal are now significantly weaker since then and City did their best to f*ck things up in 2015.

 

Yet. Fans are fickle. Give it a year or two and everyone will be fed up with them because ultimately their strategy is organic and slow growth - steady ship - like Arsenal. Hardly the dream to be honest, even though being like Arsenal now seems like a dream.

 

Read some very interesting comparisons between the attacking Rodgers vs defensive Rafa:

BR conceded 141 goals in 3 years.
Rafa conceded 148 in 5 years - that includes European games (which Rafa played more of).

Goals conceded:

Rodgers - 43, 50 , 48
Rafa - 41, 25, 27, 28, 27 ,35

Goal Difference:

Rodgers - +28, +51, +4
Rafa - +11, +32, +30, +39, +50, 26

Average GD

Rodgers over 3 years = +28
Rafa over 6 years = +31

 

True, just pointing out it wasn't as difficult to get Liverpool in the top four back then as it is now.

Who knows what would have happened under Rafa of Gerrard hadn't got that last minute goal against Olympiacos. We wouldn't have been in the CL the following season.

 

Well we lost two players essentially with Sturridge out so long. You can't lose the top two scorers in the league and hope for business as usual. We really needed a direct Suarez replacement and without that we played with no plan B or sense of direction or urgency. We felt the loss of the man, not just his position on the pitch.

 

Anyone who puts lallana up against shaw cross at CF with Gerrard cannot be said to be an attacking coach.

Someone who pins his most creative player to left side to cover his inadequate full back is not attacking

 

Spurs weren't a consistent top 4 challenger when we had Rafa though were they. Aston Villa and Bolton had a couple of tilts at it as well

 

That was my point JB. Rafa wasn't really challenged for top four

 

Houllier had a decent top four record from what I can remember too, and Evans for that matter. But top four didn't get CL football back then.

 

Monthly post: if rafas good enough for real he is good enough for us. Might aswell keep brendan now.

 

I thought you said except for Everton and Spurs, I was pointing out Spurs didn't challenge either. Basically we're making the same point

Other than utd and chelski nobody was much bothered about mounting a challenge during the Rafa years, top 4 was there for the taking by anybody. Bolton for goodness sake.

 

I was talking the piss mentioning spurs hence the poison part

The top four didn't change or look like changing for four years. It was also the time England regularly had semi-final representation too.

 

From the Guardian...

Rodgers is the kind of manager you can’t help wanting to believe in, even just a little bit. If only because of the memory of Liverpool’s best period in his three years to date, that thrilling surge in the previous season when a run of one defeat from January to April was marked by fast starts and sublime, fluent attacking interchange between three players who have, for different reasons, been largely absent this season.

Rodgers has always presented himself as a seductively modern creature, a “process manager” with a fully tooled-up range of coaching neologisms, from state-of-the-art fluent passing football, to his urge to mint new positions, subvert the dominant paradigm, play a false No9 and 3/4 and all the rest of it. Plus, of course, there is that alluringly sonorous Liverpool-shaded persona, in the good times at least, a kind of Shankly-lite mash-up of the magnetic personality, the ringing tones, the grand gestures.

Now imagine it was some foreign manager who had just ended Liverpool's season the way Rodgers has and imagine what they'd be saying about them.

 

I'm sorry but there should be no excuses when you build an attack around an injury prone striker and spend £100m in the process. I may be harsh but it's reality.

 

We don't need to imagine, we just have to look back to what they said about Rafa

 

Completely agree. He's been very lucky.

 

Even a broken clock is right twice in the day