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Ramsey, another thing to throw into mix

Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by ELLERS, May 25, 2015.

  1. aqualung

    aqualung Well-Known Member

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    we will see...only time will tell.
    Second guessing on what will happen could go on all close season imo.
     
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  2. Chaz

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    Let's be honest - if any of us had a fraction of the nous we try and display on here, we'd be managing the team ourselves. Making comments from an armchair is the easiest coaching role in the world, but making them from a dugout or on the training pitch is something completely different.

    Ramsey is the man in the chair. Let's give him some time to get to work. At the very least, give him more than 48 hours before calling for his head.
     
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  3. Sutfol

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    Lots of talk about it taking time to get things right, not much talk of getting it right as soon as possible. Sounds like they're giving themselves a nice bit of breathing space.
    Personally I think there needs to be a sense of urgency to turn things round otherwise the new team and management will have it as an excuse.
     
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    Sooperhoop Well-Known Member

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    They've already got the perfect excuse, Chris Ramsey. But I would be delighted for him to prove all the doubters wrong...
     
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  5. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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  6. Chaz

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    For me, there's a difference between 'taking time to get it right' and giving Ramsey time to sort things out.

    48 hours after the last game of the season is NOT the time for criticizing the manager for not being able to sort out the side, not when we've been relegated for weeks in truth.

    Everybody hates the feeling of relegation, but no matter how tempting it is to lay into the manager or the owner, that's not going to make any difference and won't make the complainers feel any better. Take a couple of weeks out, forget about football, enjoy the sunshine, sink a few beers, spend time with family and friends, and then come back fresh for the close-season and the path ahead. That's the only way to make anyone feel better.
     
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  7. ELLERS

    ELLERS Well-Known Member

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    I don't think its the last 48hrs we are concerned with Chaz. Palace away wasn't 48hrs ago and look what happened then, or West Ham at home or Man City and the fact that we are putting our faith in an inexperienced person in what will be one of the most difficult times in recent years is worrying.
    Like any QPR fan i want us to do well but putting Ramsey in before we have taken stock of things stinks of desperation.
     
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  9. Star of David Bardsley

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    Your opinion is worthless as you'd rather watch 11 nazis in QPR shirts finishing last in the Premier League on £1m a week each than eleven kids from the White City estate winning the Championship
     
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  10. Chaz

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  11. Chaz

    Chaz Well-Known Member

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    Putting Ramsey in - or any manager - is part of the process of taking stock.

    If you want it spelled out, we need to see who is going, who is staying, who is available, how we want to approach next season, what players we need to get in, what contracts we need to renegotiate, and get the ball rolling quickly to give the new squad the maximum time to bed in.

    You can't start any of that if you don't have a manager.
     
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    Freudian slip Matt?
     
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  13. Swords Hoopster.

    Swords Hoopster. Well-Known Member

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    Invoking Godwin this early in the morning? Bloody hell Wats

    Yes, I'd prefer to watch us in the Premiership than League One. Shocking innit
     
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  14. Star of David Bardsley

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    You'd have Premier League at any cost. That is shocking.

    Surely nothing can be worse than the sort of season we've just had and if by some miracle we scrape up again as we flukily did a year ago then the club will take even longer to build properly.
     
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    Agreed
    I would like to see us compete in the Premiership at least, like Swansea, Southampton and palace do....

    We did not...so we need to regroup...and that is in the Championship (and no lower...I hope)

    Not shocking Swordsy...pragmatic and sensible
     
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  16. Swords Hoopster.

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    Of course I'd have it at any cost. What's the point in football if you're content to get relegated down to League One and play the likes of Colchester & Shrewsbury every week?

    Obviously not the season we've had because its put us into the Championship. But scraping 17th every year? Absolutely 100%. How you could say that'd be worse than traipsing around the football league is baffling to me.

    You sound to me like you're a loser Sir
     
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    I'm talking about building a team with a clear philosophy. One whose youth teams play the same way as the first team so youth products can fit in to the first team and which can maintain some continuity when the manager leaves as there's a structure there ready for the new guy to fit into. I'm talking about doing what Swansea and Southampton have done- that takes years of hard work and **** but the end result is a club and team it's actually enjoyable to support and is successful on the pitch.

    Perennially finishing 17th sounds dire to me. Then again, it allows you to get the odd game on tv so who cares if the players are all ****s and we lose 20 games a season?
     
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  18. Swords Hoopster.

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    But we'd be playing the best teams in the Country week in, week out. Naturally we'd lose more than we win. If you'd prefer to be beating Rotherham & drawing with phukking Milton Keynes and finishing 10th in the Championsh*t then I'm sorry Sir but you display a distinct lack of ambition and are easily satisfied.

    I do not agree with your philosophy on life
     
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  19. RoyalOakRanger

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    One whose youth teams play the same way as the first team............why would you think this is a good idea? You think then that the right back in the U-11's should play the same as the right back in the U14's etc, etc? so that when the firstt team right back gets injured there is this seamless transition? What happens then when the current Manager is sacked and a new manager who wants to change the playing style to one that the fans are demanding? and how do you think the player thinks about haveing to play a way that may not suit him at all?

    The academies are full of kids who have not got a chance of making it and the coaches know this. What the Rangers academy should be doing is developing the all of the youngsters to then best of their ability and treating them as individuals not trying to programme them. They should also focus on the one or two who do have a chance of making it with a view to getting them into the first team early.
     
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  20. KooPeeArr

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    I like that!!!

    My stupid phone means I struggle to write more than two lines before losing visibility of what I'm putting.

    I should have said Barton down the pan. :D
     
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