Rate last summers signs

Like most of the signings, he needs to be played in his real position before he can be judged properly.

 

Yeh just surprised looking at the comments that ppl can see it with Can but not with Markovic (both have been played out of position). Ratings of 4 and 5 seem low that's all.

 

Lambert; Shouldn't have been signed but worked hard when given his chance, just wasn't able to cope with the demands - 4

Lallana; Paid too much money for him but been a decent squad player IMO - 6

Lovren; Paid too much. Signed to be a leader and he's been anything but and at times, making the defence even more nervous - 4

Markovic; Although expensive, he does offer the team something. Need to find a position for him really - 5

Moreno; Poor both defensively and offensively. Still young so time is on his side, needs coaching - 6

Manquillo; Decent loan signing but Brod doesn't seem to rate him - 5

Balotelli; Should never have been signed and has done nothing to suggest otherwise - 1

Emre Can; Without doubt our best signing of the summer but speaks volumes that he got this accolade playing in a unfamiliar position - 8

 

I'd much rather have Paul Scholes or Lampard in my team than Gerrard. Gerrard is half the player that Lampard was at his peak. As for the comparison with Keegan, I would suggest that you had never seen him play in his prime. Not only was he good at club level (Liverpool, Hamburg , Southampton) but he was also sensational for England - something Gerrard never was. People in Southampton still talk about the day Keegan signed for Saints nearly forty years later. Dalglish was excellent as well and I'd similarly suggest a superior player to Gerrard. I've seen some amazing players in the red and white of Saints including Le Tiss, David Armstrong , Alan Shearer, Rickie Lambert, etc and Keegan was the best of the lot. He was world class. In addition, how about throwing the name of Jimmy Case in to the ring? Easily the best footballer never to win an England cap in my opinion. Granted that he was from a different era than Gerrard but his ability and central role in the Southampton side in the 1980's marked him out as one of the most influential players I've seen. When Branfoot got rid of him, we totally collapsed. Don't get me wrong, Gerrard is good but had be not have been from Liverpool I don't think he would have been held in such affection. Most non-Liverpool fans are likely to be more guarded in their praise.

I didn't say that Lallana was as good as Suarez but that they were both of on an equal footing in that game. As a Liverpool supporter, you have ever seen the best of Lallana.

Football is all about opinions and it is good to have a debate about certain players. I think you have got a gem in Lallana even if you paid over the odds for him - savvy business by Saints although not quite as cute as selling Calum Chambers to Arsenal which was a stroke of genius by Koeman.

 

Lambert - 3 - Why sign him, why bother. Complete farce. Feel for him.
Lallana - 5 - Injuries, whole team out of form... not his fault he was £25m. Will be better + still won some games for us.
Lovren - 666 - Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha professional footballer hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Markovic - 5 - Very raw. Showed signs of real potential. Didn't deserve red vs Basel or to be frozen out
Moreno - 5 - looked decent but declined as the team did. Has potential to be very good and showed flashes. Needs a proper coach + midfield.
Manquillo - 5 - Spanish Steve Finnan? Unfairly given the Rodgers treatment
Balotelli - 4 - Enigma. Simply hasn't scored enough. But when he played he was nothing like our worst player. Got hung out to dry by Rodgers. Big waste.
Emre Can - 7 - Some flaws at rb (Rodgers!) recently but was pretty boss when he was brought in. Intelligent, strong, promising... ambitious player. Great hair.

Trend here is players being played out of position, frozen out... lack of confidence, direction/organisation in defence... no goals. Summer with so much spent and no goals. Who do we blame? Hmmm

 

Listen feller, I saw Keegan make his debut for us, I also saw most games he played for us home and away, when he chased the money over to Hamburg we signed a player well better than Keegan for £440k from Celtic...Kenny Dalglish.
You might think highly of Keegan because he played for Southampton but you are having a giraffe if you think he was anywhere near Dalglish or Gerrard for LFC.

 

lampard couldn't carry a team like gerrard has down the years for us

 

Keegan was finesse personified. At his peak, he was probably the best player in Europe. I agree about Dalglish being a good player too but to lump Gerrard in the same category is demonstrably ridiculous. Most non-partial football fans would acknowledge the ability of Keegan and Dalglish but opinions about Gerrard are often mixed. Even the press could not agree with his legacy when his retirement was first mooted. As I said, I don't think that he was even as good as Jimmy Case. There has been such a paucity of local talent in the EPL that it is no surprise that you adore one of your own but, at the same time, you would have to accept that he never captured the attention of the England supporter in the fashion that Beckham did and he would never have merited the esteem amongst England fans in the way that KK personified the 1970' nor Hoddle in the 1980's. . Gerrard was a very good player but never World Class.

 

You are obviously on the wum or are basing your opinion on the Gerrard of today and not when he was in his prime, ok so you dont/didn't rate him but there's plenty within the game and that do.

But you're entitled to your opinion and it just happens to be wrong.

 

The Gerrard/Lampard/Scholes debate has been done to death over the last 10 years... let's leave it there and get back on topic about our signings.

 

Blatantly on the wum and it's not even a appropriate thread. I'd have deleted the contents had I not been on my phone (have to do one at a time). Maybe one of the other mods can earn some of their pennies for once...?

 

Already commented on it and half of the post is relevant so didn't want to delete the whole thing

 

Just picked up on the latest posts. I am not intending to wind you up just suggesting that you might want to consider Lallana's ability from the perspective of us Saints fans. We were gutted to see him leave although he did show a far greater degree of loyalty than Luke Shaw who will ultimately come good for Utd and consolidate the LB position for England. Lallana's vision and ability were central to the attractive football we had played until his departure just as Lambert's goals were instrumental in our rise from League One. There was a degree of inevitability with Lallana being sold as he was the jewel in the crown, just as Schneiderlin has been this season. The only surprise was the fact that he left for Liverpool whereas I would have thought he would have been better suited to Spurs.

It might also be worthwhile recalling Rodger's less than-diplomatic response to his raid on Southampton last summer - especially in the light of Sterling's pending departure. That will eventually prove to be good business for Liverpool as he looks like a disaster waiting to happen. (The chapter in the excellent book called "the Nowhere men" might be interesting reading fro you Liverpool fans.)

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Give it up feller, if we're nowhere men what does that make Southampton?

I like the saints because they play nice football and a mammary gland like you won't change that, but have Southampton ever purchased a player from another club?, did they feel sorry for the selling club and their supporters?, football is a business and buying and selling players is part of it, Saints got the best part of the deal(the money)and we got robbed so get that massive chip of your shoulder.

 

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I suggest you read my post again.

"The nowhere men" is a book by Michael Calvin which is about football scouts. I would thoroughly recommend this book wanting to learn about football. One of the chapters is given over to Liverpool and how Damien Commelli's fixation with statistics led to the departure of Dalglish who was reluctant to accept that a "money ball " approach to signing players would prove successful. That chapter is interesting enough although the information about Sterling is perhaps more interesting given that his ability was known about at an early stage by the likes of Brentford and QPR yet bigger clubs were reluctant to take a punt because of his dire social background and educational issues. (He had learning difficulties.) Incidentally, Rodgers comes out well in this book and he is applauded for taking the risk. In the context of recent media speculation, this book proves to be quite salient.

I haven't got a chip at all - just think that you need to wake up that just because someone has had a poor, injury-prone first season at Anfield isn't going to make them a bad player. Certainly, given the "high" risk signings of Sterling and Balitelli, Lallana looks an astute acquisition. Lallana is a model pro, very much like your Gerrard and the way he conducted himself at Saints won a lot of admirers from old pro's.

 

So we're on first name terms, good.<cough><cough>

Ian, the book might or might not be a good read but the standout thing about your posts is your total dislike for LFC due to us raiding your squad last season, but there's no need because your club has flourished since.

 

I've painstakingly done this!

 

Thank you very much for the £50 million,
Thank you very much, thank you very, very, very much,
Thank you very much for the £50 million,
Thank you very, very,VERY MUCH!

 

Your club might get a few million more if Brendan gets sacked.

 

Blimey, Ian's off and having a proper love-in with Lallana. He is hardly a "model pro" Ian if you remember his agitating to leave over the summer, and with the best will in the world is only about half the player of Schneiderlin. The guys here have it right - for a club like Liverpool, with their expectations, he's a decent player (and yes, a bit of a one-trick pony with his Cruyff turn).

The way you're rabbiting on you'd think he was the new Le Tissier, and let's be honest, the big man had more in his left pinkie than Lallana ever will.

But sorry Liverpool fans, as you were on the strangely hijacked thread!