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Gary Neville's Thoughts On LFC's Stature

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    which is EXACTLY what i said. half assed. It's like people at the top know they are SUPPOSED to do something but are only doing it cos they think they have to

    Its like a landed gent who's inherited the old pile off his lordship and really all they want to do is go back to the Caribbean with their hookers and booze and blow but its expected that they run the show now.

    We need an obsessive multibillionaire incharge who will stop at nothing to make us best.
     
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  2. astro

    astro Well-Known Member

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    The Sterling Situation is one of a **** being a **** and has little to do with our stature

    Coutinho is a much better player and signed no problem

    Man Utd letting Pogba leave for free is a far, far, FAR bigger **** up
     
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  3. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Not really, Liverpool is renowned for its solidarity when things go tits up, I can't believe you swallowed the bs by Neville about going out in Manchester and nobody bats an eyelid, as if him or other players at the time weren't surrounded by minders or were in a place Joe public couldn't afford to be.
     
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  4. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I agree with the sentiment but I think you can have all that with a top manager.
     
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  5. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    No I'm not sure about his reasoning which is why I said in an earlier post I wasnt sure why but I do agree there is a lack of ambition within the club. It's not ruthless enough.

    What you posted earlier is the kind of defeatest (no offence intended) stuff you hear from newcastle fans tbh.

    EDIT: I meant what JB posted earlier.
     
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  6. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Bolton. Anyway, Bury, Bolton - he's still a horrible ****.
     
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  7. Maybe but like many of our fans so to the fans that support so-called smaller clubs; they can afford that **** up!
     
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  8. astro

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    £170m invested just to creep back into 4th and still no identifiable midfield without 34 year old Carrick, I wouldn't consider that affordable or sustainable

    They've papered over the cracks in a very poor year for the PL and Van Gaal has #bottled it at every club he's been at when there's actual pressure
     
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  9. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    He's from Bury.<grr>

    But he is a horrible ****.<whistle>
     
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  10. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    We need to start acting like a big club again. I'm sorry but Rodgers is small time - in the way he talks, in what he's achieved in his career, and the players he likes. Fact is, we finished 2nd last season and Rodgers targeted Lallana, Lovren and Lambert.

    Apart from that, Neville is talking nonsense about Gerrard (as do most pundits) and he's talking b*llocks about the committee. Every big club operates this way bar Arsenal, and that's because Wenger has earnt the right to have more power. The only issue I have is that we were stupid enough to give it a label and publicly announce it.
     
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  11. Bodinki

    Bodinki You're welcome
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    Man United spent a lot of money to go from 7th to 4th.
    But didn't you spend similar amounts to drop from 2nd to 5th?
    Not really sure you can use that against them.
    And before you say "We lost Suarez" United lost Vidic, Evra AND Ferdinand, their whole defence left.

    I am not defending them or saying LvG did good, I think he did very mediocre....but they certainly have done better than Liverpool this season.
     
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  12. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    'I have lost count of the times Liverpool have unveiled plans for a new stadium at Stanley Park, only to end up staying at Anfield because of the history of the place and the fervour of the Kop. In the early 90s when United made their move, Liverpool should have been on their coat tails.

    But Anfield has held them back because every other big club - with the exception of Chelsea, who are owned by a Russian billionaire - has moved forward already, either by vastly increasing their current stadium or building a new one.'


    He makes a few ok points but this but is really weak and poorly written. So Utd left Old Trafford in the 90s for a brand new purpose built stadium did they?? Chelsea have made such massive expansions to Stamford Bridge haven't they?? Then there's blatant contradiction in that we are renovating Anfield (alright, at long last as he observes, but it is happening) which he sort of realises he has stumbled into but tries to hide by delaying any discussion of that till much further on in the article. Fact is Arsenal and City are the only two who have moved to new, modern, purpose built stadiums, partly because these clubs don't have the same history of clubs like us and Utd so it isn't such a wrench to uproot and see the old ground pulled down and the land redeveloped into a supermarket.

    The basic fact that we sell our best players stands though ('best' in the case of Sterling... whereas McManaman, Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, Suarez are a given)
     
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  13. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Maine Road and Highbury were in built up areas and surrounded by streets, Old Trafford is built on part of what was an industrial estate and there was plenty of room for development with none of the hassle we've had over many years with resident groups.
     
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  14. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    astro Well-Known Member

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    Man Utd have by far the most expensive squad

    Even with all the money spent we still only have the 5th most expensive squad

    Rodgers overachieving last year but not overachieving this year has little to do with Van Gaal's massive underachievement <ok>
     
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  17. redconn

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    It's a frankenstein article of cobbled together obvious facts, strange conclusions, and inapplicable comparisons.

    There are things we could have done better, some things were unavoidable, some we've done well.

    He may as well have said "if Liverpool were top when the PL money came like United were and your ground was in an abandoned town outside of Liverpool with no planning constraints, you could have kept up with us"

    Cheers Gary. Never thought of that.
     
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  18. FedLadSonOfAnfield

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    Good point and industrial wasteland is hardly an ideal site for a major football stadium. In fact I don't think there is such a thing. If the stadium's old it's inevitably going to be in a built up or scuzzy area, if it's new you put it wherever you can get the necessary planning permission.

    Part of our redevelopment involves clearing a lot of that old terraced housing around the ground anyway so we are going to have that modern, expansive feel about the place eventually <ok>
     
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    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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  20. astro

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    Small time is Van Gaal saying £170m invested should only be judged after 3 years. Rodgers has the balls to say £100m invested should have you challenging for the title, even if he didn't manage to live up to his own high standards this season

    Van Gaal will claim Man Utd are close to challenging for the title when he's pissed but then quickly backtracks and says he was only quoting the media when pressed on it
     
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