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Celino To Sack Redders Because He's Turned Fans Against Celino

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  1. dbc

    dbc Well-Known Member

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    Actually to be fair, I do hate Cellino. I honestly didn't think I could hate an owner more than Bates but he can mark that up as one of the few achievements at his time at Leeds.

    But in terms of how long it took to research WJ, not long at all. You just google any Cellino interview and play contradiction/bullshit bingo.
     
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    dbc Well-Known Member

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    I included that because on numerous occasions he has claimed that the club are debt free when clearly that demonstrates that we are not. We have a lot of debt.

    It also a nod to people who defend him by saying that one of his achievements is that he saved the club financially by cutting our extravagant costs so we are no longer running up bigger debts on a day to day basis. But any of us if we had bought the club could have turned around the clubs finances because GFH (legally but in my opinion immorally) massively and intentionally loaded the club with 25 million of debt during it's brief tenure so that when it was sold it would be owed back to GFH. Nice work if you can get it. So to balance the books moving forward all you had to do was not legally rob err I mean load the club with more debt.

    But I think it has allowed Massivego to penny pinch in certain departments such as low wages, cutting staff, questioning if we can afford the academy whilst strangely he can splash out on "garbage" and as of today we are currently paying the wages for 4 head coaches. Hardly a masterstroke of prudent wise financial spending.
     
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    Only just seen this, this morning.

    It tells it how it is <ok>
     
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  4. LeedsLover

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    I respect what you're saying dbc,

    Cellino was aware of the up coming embargo, he wasn't really in a position to splash the cash thanks to GFH, he was limited on his spending and had to cut costs in other departments, if he did spend big it would've been detrimental to club by way of a longer embargo and/or a big fine like QPR could face if they come back down.

    I know we differ on opinions, but the way I see it, Cellino was hampered and boxed in by what GFH did which limited him to what he could do and spend.

    There's always going to be talk about owners lining their own pockets, but they're all businessmen, they're in it to make money at some stage. No matter how much fans complain, or accuse, businessmen are all going to be the same. Chelsea owe Abramovich a lot of money too.

    No businessman is going to be totally honest with anyone, it's in their nature.

    Personally, I think GFH saw a way with Leeds to get their own company out of trouble.
     
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  5. sniffer1

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    put yourself in cellino shoes the assistant coach thompson calls the owner cellino a twat and other italian bosses twats and does this in public so that all the fans know about it , would you not say that this is turning the fans against you ? i will answer yes . would you not sack thompson for calling you a twat in public ? i will answer yes . then the manager redders seems to be at a loss because he then blames leeds performance on thompson leaving and that it is cellinos fault , i will answer NO it is not cellinos fault that thompson called him a twat in public and also the football sports director is it ? i will answer NO . THEREFORE REDDERS IS AT FAULT FOR NOT COMING OUT AND SAYING THAT THOMPSON IS WELL OVER THE TOP and redders should then have backed cellino up and said it was a totally justified sacking ! BUT LETS ANALISE WHY REDDERS DID NOT DO THAT
    1. Because if leeds started to play bad after thompsons sacking redders could blame it on that ( lets rewind is it not the managers job to get the players playing to the top of their ability even if the assistant coach is not there ? )
    2. thompson is redders best mate , ( redders did not separate that from the fact that thompson acted unproffesional )
    Therefore i hold redders and thompson at fault for leeds finishing 15th !! and lets face it thats NOT AN ACHEVIEMENT !
    Going for uve rossler was it a correct decision ?
    Manchester City 1 Wigan 2: Uwe Rosler hails FA Cup victory
    Personal information
    Full name
    Uwe Rösler
    Date of birth 15 November 1968 (age 46)
    Place of birth Altenburg, East Germany
    Height 1.85 m (6 ft 1 in)
    Playing position Centre forward
    Club information
    Current team

    Leeds United (head coach)
    Youth career
    –1981
    BSG Traktor Starkenberg
    1981–1987 1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig
    Senior career*
    Years
    Team Apps† (Gls)†
    1987–1988
    1. FC Lokomotive Leipzig 3 (0)
    1988–1989 BSG Chemie Leipzig 27 (6)
    1989–1990 1. FC Magdeburg 46 (19)
    1990–1992 Dynamo Dresden 46 (7)
    1992–1994 1. FC Nürnberg 28 (0)
    1993–1994Dynamo Dresden (loan) 7 (0)
    1994–1998 Manchester City 152 (50)
    1998–1999 1. FC Kaiserslautern 28 (8)
    1999–2000 Tennis Borussia Berlin 28 (6)
    2000–2002 Southampton 24 (0)
    2001West Bromwich Albion (loan) 5 (1)
    2002 SpVgg Unterhaching 14 (5)
    2002–2003 Lillestrøm 11 (10)
    Total 419 (112)
    National team

    East Germany U21[1] 6 (1)
    1990 East Germany 5 (0)
    Teams managed
    2004–2006
    Lillestrøm
    2006–2009 Viking
    2010 Molde
    2011–2013 Brentford
    2013–2014 Wigan Athletic
    2015– Leeds United
    Managerial statistics[edit]
    As of 7 November 2014[52]
    Team From To Record Ref
    G
    W D L Win % Suc %
    Lillestrøm 1 November 2004 13 November 2006 55 24 16 15 43.64 53.34
    Viking 22 November 2006 18 November 2009 89 37 24 28 41.58 50.57
    Molde 30 August 2010 31 December 2010 8 6 2 0 75.00 83.34
    Brentford 10 June 2011 7 December 2013 136 60 40 36 44.12 53.93
    Wigan Athletic 7 December 2013 13 November 2014 55 22 16 17 40.00 49.70
    Leeds United 20 May 2015 Incumbent 0 0 0 0 0.00 0.00
    Total 343 149 98 96 43.45 52.97
    is he the right manager ? he is worth giving a chance yes
    MY PERSONAL CHOICE IS MICK MC CARTHY AS HE IS FROM YORKSHIRE AND UNDERSTANDS THE YORKSHIRE MINDSET OF HARD GRAFT BRINGS REWARDS AND THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD TIME TO BRING HIM TO LEEDS BUT WHO IS TO SAY THAT CELLINO HAS NOT CONTACTED HIM ?
    uve rossler was the leading goalscorer for man city for 3 years so he should know a good goal scorer when he sees one
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    Rosler, 46, returns to the game for the first time since being sacked by Wigan Athletic back in November despite leading them to the Sky Bet Championship play-offs and the semi-finals of the FA Cup last season.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-year-contract-Elland-Road.html#ixzz3b3uWbtRB
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