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Livermore tests positive for Cocaine

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  1. Edelman

    Edelman Well-Known Member

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    He was always out
    Still think he does but don't blame him really
     
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  2. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    They're not just going to test for recreational drugs though, are they, it's mainly performance enhancing stuff that they're after?
     
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  3. bum_chinned_crab

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    100k is the weekly wage of dozens if not 100+ Premier League players. If only Premier League clubs paid for this - no other league clubs -it would be 5k a week for them. Absolute pocket change. If they don't do it, they're not serious about it.
     
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  4. NorthFerribyTiger

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    As I said though...regular testing for recreational drugs & an athletics style system for performance enhancing drugs....how can top fight players not have been tested in over 2 years ?
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Cocaine only stays in the system for a maximum of four days, if this system was introduced, players would simply make sure they didn't take any coke four days before a game and it would be £100k a week wasted, as nobody would ever fail.

    Livermore has been really stupid, as it should be a piece of piss(pun intended) to never fail this test.
     
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  6. NorthFerribyTiger

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    Like I said, clubs should test midweek as well
     
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    Possibly so, I don't know Ash personally so I'm unsure of his drinking habits, but what I do know is that however much he drank it never appeared to affect his captaincy of the team, not when he led us manfully from the bottom tier to the top, not when he strode purposefully out of the players tunnel at the KC for our first match in the PL against Fulham, and not for any of the matches in between.

    Ashbee is, and for me always will be, a City hero, and one of the best captains for any team that I've had the pleasure to witness bossing a team.
     
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    2 players have failed this week on random tests.
     
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  9. NorthFerribyTiger

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    Three with Livermore

    The thing is these tests are not random......you can expect a test after a game, but testing in season isn't random...remember Rio Ferdinand was banned for leaving the training ground on the day of a scheduled random test !! He & the club knew exactly when the test would take place
     
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  10. originallambrettaman

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    The out of competition tests are not random, they're pre-arranged and apart from Rio going awol to miss one, they are generally passed, as you'd have to be a right dickhead to do coke within four days of a test you knew you were getting.

    Random tests in competition are a far better deterrent, as you never know when you're going to get one, hence three players getting caught in the past week. Though those caught are also dickheads, as you shouldn't be out doing coke a few days before a game anyway.
     
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  11. Wildie

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    Have the others who have been caught been named yet?
     
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  12. NorthFerribyTiger

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    Wolves keeper Aaron McCarey - Non performance enhancing substance

    Sheffield United’s Jose Baxter - banned substance
     
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  13. NorthFerribyTiger

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    For me the greatest deterrent is a suitable punishment

    Any player found guilty of using drugs (recreational or performance enhancing) should face a mandatory LIFE ban from any role within Professional Sport including competition, coaching, management
     
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    The Pharmacokinetics of drug metabolism (how fast the body processes it) are complicated and affected by many external things, thats probably why he has a very low level of cocaine metabolite in his urine, he's either taken too much, or his metabolism has been slowed by something else.
    i.e. he's ****ed up!
     
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  15. DMD

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    I was reading something earlier this week about the progress of a non-intrusive test that can be taken like a finger print.

    They test the levels of chemicals in the grease, which being a finger print, ties it directly and minimises people providing dodgy samples.

    I think so far it's only for cocaine, and the testing instruments were hellish expensive.
     
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    Cocaine & other drug use can be tested for over a period of many months from a hair sample
     
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    Not enough! They should be hung, drawn and quartered, castrated, excommunicated, exported, made to watch Scunthorpe every week, and only then given a life ban.
     
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    It also only tests for people who are coked up at the time, it isn't designed to find people who had it a few days earlier.
     
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    You seen to know an awful lot about drugs tests OLM ? :)
     
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  20. DMD

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    It's currently being tested to see how long after use it can still detect it. That's what the article I was reading was about. It wasn't on line, so you maybe won't find it on google.
     
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