Things We Think We Think #187

Man U only get a shot at third if we beat Arsenal. Arsenal only need a point. That being the case I think we'll get it providing we stay organised as arsenal won't be too keen on committing too many forward. We won't beat Arsenal full stop because we can't score goals so expect Man U to have nothing to play for last day.

Man U are beatable in the likely senario that we won't beat Arsenal on Tuesday. We won't beat Chelsea either so if Arsenal beat us we could easily go down last day.

 

It's 99.9% certain we've gone!

 

Oh how we were ridiculed for giving you similar feedback. We weren't saying it to be nasty to Hull City or Bruce, we were just saying it how it is. But some of you decided we were lying and it was all because he was a Geordie even though the people of Sunderland are more Geordie than Bruce will ever be. We had no reason to lie to you. As a result even he name Hull gets groans on our board with a lot of our posters rather you go down than the Mags(Not me, Mags all the way). I know it was blind defense as you are proud people, but proud can border on stupid can't it?

 

I disagree, I do think chances are very much against you but no way it's 99.9% likely.

 

Okay, 99.8%

 

Professional Virtue? Worst Choice of words ever.

 

That came to mind when I read it too.

 

I know what he/she is getting at. Great player for you, a must keep for obvious reasons. Just a very poor choice of words from the Author. He/she should amend it to empathise passion to the cause and not Professional Virtue.

I'm surprised the author didn't mention fans booing each other at pivotal points in relegation games. I've read your threads on this with great interest as I feel our fans let the team down too with nonconstructive behavior. It's something that although may not define your problems, does add to the problem you have.

 

What would the normal odds be for this game. City about 5/1 to win ?

If we see a Man U starting XI with Blackett and McNair and without De Gea and Rooney then we have a chance. Just a chance.

Edit: BetFair currently offering 5/2 City Win

 

We do need to retain certain players before the transfer window opens because they are out of contract and can be picked up for free if we don't.

 

The transfer window doesn't open this week and it wasn't open last week. Nobody is going to sign a contract until after status is determined. I agree with you fella entirely. But it doesn't meet Lambretta's precious time frame does it so maybe we should talk about it.

 

Nothing to stop the out of contract players effectively signing with another club this week, last week or even next week.

This is how I read the article, get the out of contract players signed because we will need them.

We have, at present, a low level civil war within our club. Many see the continued existence of our club as more important than Premier League status. Its sad we've come to this and I hope you're never in this position to appreciate what we are going through. Until the FA put this to bed once and for all or Assem Allam sells us it'll continue.

 

But your club isn't going to offer them a premier league salary when you could be in the Championship next season and the players aren't going to take a championship wage when they could be in the premiership. I know you're concerned, understandably so, we lost Colback this way. It's too late to tie up the contracts before your fate is sealed, no agent in the world would advise their players to do that. It should have been done before Christmas, you may have tried, maybe these players are keeping their options open.

The Allam business, it's just madness fella. **** knows what you're going to do about him. I feel for you fella. Taking a dump on footballing heritage he is. Their should be rulings where the FA can force the sale of a club when and idiot like him gets his hands on it.

I say treat clubs like listed buildings. If an owner knocks it down he has to rebuild and leave it as he found it. If an owner runs a club into debt and tries to force an identity change then it's the owners who should cop the debt and return the club to how it was. It would make idiots like Allam think twice before buying an English club.

 

Decent read and much to be agreed with, some points I have, if we go down, I hope Brucie does the decent thing and resign, I don't say this lightly as he has been good for us, but once again at top level he has fallen short. I say this because of the players brought in this season on paper looked more than promising, but as one Sunderland guy predicted at the start of the season he would not get them to gel. The main reason for this I believe is we have good players in midfield but no pace together with we never really sorted the left side of our team, Snodgrass I believe was the major factor there. Then there is the treatment of Mc Guire and Robertson, we should have played Robertson in the Bale role at spurs and how can a player be man of the match against Arsenal and be allowed to go on loan, he could easily been converted into a holding midfielder with Livermore which would have allowed Huddlestone to be relieved of the defensive part of the game, with Robbo Brady Elmo giving us the pace we lack. If as we see in the papers Robertson has many admirers, why hasn't he played more often (injuries aside). My main reason for him resigning is again on paper our side has as much talent as Palace Leicester W.Brom Stoke and on the day W Ham Swansea all bar Leicester are comfortable in the league. On the issue of selling the players if the moneys not right why let them go, as we believe 50% reduction in I presume the new signings wages if relegated, let them play for their future in the Championship. Its not the end of the world dropping down, its how and who will bring us back up. The main thing for me what we got wrong, was playing counter attack/ defensive football with a lack of pace, therefore our recruitment has to be questioned.

 

Don't forget his handball 'finish' as well

 

Im surprised theres no mention of banners being confiscated.

Wait, no, no I am not surprised.

 

Fair point, Funky, but it remains an excellent article. Things We Think We Think invariably are.

 

Totally agree with this, doing my dissertation at University he helped me a fair bit, top fella and an excellent reporter.